Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S?

[mopar68]

Originally Posted by Shawn Blair

David, I agree this would not be a good rule change. What's next?

Shawn 6383

Nitrous oxide!

M68

[SSGN]

Originally Posted by mopar68

Nitrous oxide!

M68

Why have rules,let it all hang out and lets see who is really fast.Not much stock left in Stock or super stock

[FINESPLINE]

I understand the idea of of Ti valves but it is not allowed in SS. The last time everyone looked -SS/AH was part of SS eliminater. So for the want of the few , everyone will be (forced ), well not forced, but in this competitive sport ,will run them for fear of giving up an edge to the competition.
I have never met Charlie Westcott but I do like his attitude. You can,t beat-------just tell me the rules so I know what to work with.

[FINESPLINE]

Oh , one more thing------As far as the NHRA tech dept. allowing Stock and S/Stock to morph into what we have today . Whatever they allow or disallow they should be geared to check it at teardown. I don't believe I have to cite examples. They created this monster-----now corral it.

[scott gray]

titanium valves WTF, Where the hell does this stop? Chamber mods, aftermarket cranks, etc etc. Why change the rules to accomodate those that do not follow them [ cheaters]. Titanium valves are already in use like the cranks and chamber mods were before becoming legal to do so. Throw the cheaters out rather than change the rules for them. Why stick it in everyones ***** that does the right thing. NO TITANIUM VALVES ! This is SUPERSTOCK not prostock. Oh but we need change, look where our change is gettin us. Leave the rules as they were written.

[ronn brigham]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!
Stock Eliminator, Super Stock Eliminator,Modified and Competition Eliminator,Alcohol Funny Car and Alcohol Dragster were the Sportsman Classesbefore the addition of the Super classes.You start in the class that fits you and your bank account.You try to do the best you can with help from your friends to run under the index of the class you fit into.
Stock and Super Stock limit you to what can be done to the car and all its parts."That keeps the cost down so you can keep racing."If they keep allowing more expensive changes in heads,intake manifolds,etc.it is going to limit participation and eventually eliminate the or a class.
I do not know what the answer is but we need to stick together to prevent loss of sportsman racing and keep it somewhat affordable.
Sinecerely,
Ronnie Brigham
B/S 1171

[69Cobra]

So let me get this straight. Ti valves are not legal for Stock replacements? I was talking with a stock eliminator racer the week before Indy about some thinks on his car. A few other guys walked up and started talking with him and they were asking what all you are allowed to do to your engine in stock. You will never guess what came out of his mouth. He said that he was allowed to use Ti valves. I quickly said "Do What?" and he's like yeah you are allowed any aftermarket valve. I was like really? Saweeet! I'll get right on that.

[Jeff Lee]

Even though I would be against Ti valves, one thing to consider is the cost of custom valves. I can buy SS valves off the shelf for my 390 AMC and they are competitively priced against all the other makes. But my engine builder takes valves for other makes and then does a lot of work to them on the back side. Flow improvements are significant. So I can't imagine my guy is the only one doing this. I would guess there are some big name builders and probably more of those "best kept secret" builders who do the same. I don't know what the final cost is (I just know how much the big ticket is ) but I'm sure they're not cheap.
Of course if they were Ti, the modifications may be just as high, if not higher due to the extra machining process.

On billet cranks...my guess is they will allow them. Why do I say this? Because I just spent stupid money on my factory forged unit. And every time I do this, a new rule comes out that would have been cheaper and easier!

[Ed Carpenter]

If we keep going like this why don't we just say run whatever you want and NHRA can just check cubic inches. I'll say it again Comp here we come. I predict after this gets thru aluminum heads are next.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by deuces wild

If we keep going like this why don't we just say run whatever you want and NHRA can just check cubic inches. I'll say it again Comp here we come. I predict after this gets thru aluminum heads are next.

The argument will be..."since we have to change all the seats to match these valves and these heads are so old...blah, blah, blah"