So all of you Mopar guys!

[lvd2340]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

I just checked cars.com, and the cheapest Neon within 500 miles was a $3995 2004 SXT 4-door automatic with what NHRA calls the 122/132.It would fit in BF/S-C/FS-DF/S. Now how much additional would it cost to get it running under the 14.65, 15.15 or 15.60 indexes?

Having talked to a couple of Neon "guru's" convinced me it was a waste of time. At least with an automatic.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by lvd2340

Having talked to a couple of Neon "guru's" convinced me it was a waste of time. At least with an automatic.

Ya know Billy, getting out of bed in the morning is a "waste of time".

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know Billy, getting out of bed in the morning is a "waste of time".

The stick really is the better choice in the Neon. The 41/40TE's are an interesting piece. There is no bands, only clutches. There is an electric solenoid for each gear, and an actuating element that fills with fluid to control each gear change/how many clutches are applied. You would have to write a program to override the fill points on the element to increase the shift rpm, as well as engaging the converter clutch lockup...which can have anywhere from 50-300 RPM worth of slippage depending on driving.

If one really wanted to go the route of running an automatic Neon, I would swap in an A-413 from an earlier front wheel drive car, and do away with the electronics.

[mtkawboy]

There's an 05 Neon SE on Facebook Marketplace in Hermosa South Dakota for $150. Its a parts car though, no engine or trans, cheap start though

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

The 41/40TE's are an interesting piece. There is an electric solenoid for each gear

Kinda like the trans in my Buick.

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Kinda like the trans in my Buick.

I'd rather work on the trans in your Buick.

[Billy Nees]

If there's an "electric solenoid for each gear", couldn't you rig up some kind of electric "shifter" to control what solenoids are engaged and dis-engaged and use it for gear selection and engagement? Just "brain-farting" here.

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

If there's an "electric solenoid for each gear", couldn't you rig up some kind of electric "shifter" to control what solenoids are engaged and dis-engaged and use it for gear selection and engagement? Just "brain-farting" here.

I don't see why not. Would be interesting to see how people react to that. It would be similar to what they were using in Pro Stock during the 90's to control the Lenco solenoids I suppose.

I will add that I have had some in depth conversation with a Chrysler transmission engineer who didn't come out and directly say, but heavily implied that these transmissions were designed to fail.

[Steve Stickel]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Kinda like the trans in my Buick.

Bill, are you tuning the Buick thru HP Tuners ? if so, should have some trans tables in there to "adjust" or turn off and on...

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Steve Stickel

Bill, are you tuning the Buick thru HP Tuners ?

Yes, I'm using HP Tuners but it's not quite that simple with the Buick. The Cavalier is pretty simple.