deep staging

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Signman

Back in the 2000s looked into this for a way to make it fair simply becuase some cars cannot cut a light

Ya know, I've gotta call B.S. on this because I've raced some awfully slow cars over the years and unless I've got super-human reflexes, I've never had a problem getting whatever it is I'm driving to get a light dead shallow.

[Jody Lang]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know, I've gotta call B.S. on this because I've raced some awfully slow cars over the years and unless I've got super-human reflexes, I've never had a problem getting whatever it is I'm driving to get a light dead shallow.

Without changing your spot on the tree? C’mon Billy…

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Jody Lang

Without changing your spot on the tree? C’mon Billy…

Jody, I'm not the natural driver that you are but I've got 3 "spots" that I'm somewhat comfortable with. Between them and making changes to the car, I can get it in the game. My biggest problem (other than old age) is when I start thinking.

[Larry Hill]

Just like checkers they make a move I make a move according to the rules. Most go to the races to win within the rule’s structure. To my knowledge nobody did anything outside the rules.

[Mark Yacavone]

Just my usual warped sense of thinking, but I contend that if you can't hit .020s or better most of the time, whether deep or shallow , you should probably work on your own program , rather than someone else's.

[Larry Hill]

No argument here

[Casey Miles]

I regularly deep stage my Corvette when bracket racing at my local tracks because the car does leave as hard as a real race car.
Here's away of looking at it in NHRA, why does super street have a .5 tree and all the other super classes have a .4 tree? NHRA took into consideration the minimum weight difference between the classes. So if you take a lower class car, it can't accelerate as fast as a upper class car, so deep staging would be a tool for making a level playing field.
Please no hate mail, it's how we race in south Florida. My buddy won the IHRA World championship in a1986 Cougar with a bone stock 302 that's been in the car for over 15 years, it usually goes 2.25 seconds to the 60' he puts on his window "XXX DEEP".

Casey Miles
248H Stock

[Dan Fletcher]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Just like checkers they make a move I make a move according to the rules. Most go to the races to win within the rule’s structure. To my knowledge nobody did anything outside the rules.

Somewhat akin to being the last car to the lanes...

[Larry Hill]

Going by the rules is always a good thing. If the rules don’t mention being last as an infraction it must be ok.

[Signman]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know, I've gotta call B.S. on this because I've raced some awfully slow cars over the years and unless I've got super-human reflexes, I've never had a problem getting whatever it is I'm driving to get a light dead shallow.

Billy
With much respect: my statement about some cars not being able to hit the tree was what had been told several times, was an addition and a consolation to my effort hoping so those who needed to stage deep and a voice would join in and get it done. As stated the deepers did not like who was making the proposal...............................



BUT there is a fair solution: "Called Compulink who told me with some additional programming to Autostart this could be taken care of. Add a D before your dial when race control puts it in with the D the staging lights will allow deep by the full stage light not coming on until the prestage beam closed. Opponent would see the same as if shallow."


Deep stage racers want the tree held so they can take control of the race. If this was not the case they would have sought a fair solution.