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partsbob67 08-27-2023 06:24 PM

deep staging
 
does anybody know why deep staging in the sportsman classes is illegal? courtesy staging?

Mark Yacavone 08-27-2023 08:17 PM

Re: deep staging
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by partsbob67 (Post 685113)
does anybody know why deep staging in the sportsman classes is illegal? courtesy staging?

It's illegal because about 20 years ago, a few guys were winning regularly, deep. Jody, Toby, Donny Sabin, Scott Welborn.
A couple of cowboys decided to try to throw these off their game plan. They'd do a short burnout and rush up and stage and try to leave the D/S'er no time to stage.
Supposedly, NHRA put it to a vote and DEEP lost..
Problem there was the majority, who didn't go deep got to vote on something that was none of their business. On top of that, some guys right here on C/R got to mouth off, when they had no idea why the guys were going deep. They didn't understand the process at all.
Don't believe me ? Check the archives here.

MoJo Risen 08-27-2023 10:05 PM

Re: deep staging
 
One can still deep stage, but they have to do it while the tree is coming down.

The reaction timer starts when the stage beam is exited, not the pre stage beam. It takes practice.

There is also no rule saying at what angle you stage, perpendicular to the beams or extreme example of aiming toward or away from Christmas tree to get "excessive rollout".
Pro Tip. # 207

MR DERBY CITY 08-27-2023 10:06 PM

Re: deep staging
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by partsbob67 (Post 685113)
does anybody know why deep staging in the sportsman classes is illegal? courtesy staging?

The same reason blinders were outlawed. There is a number of WHINEY azz CHICKEN chits among us…. The AGENDA is, “If I don’t do it, then NO ONE needs to do it” ……:):)

MR DERBY CITY 08-27-2023 10:12 PM

Re: deep staging
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 685127)
One can still deep stage, but they have to do it while the tree is coming down.

The reaction timer starts when the stage beam is exited, not the pre stage beam. It takes practice.

Sometimes it’s better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt…:)

MoJo Risen 08-27-2023 10:25 PM

Re: deep staging
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr derby city (Post 685129)
sometimes it’s better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt…:)

Hilarious. M.J. Quinn

MR DERBY CITY 08-27-2023 10:29 PM

Re: deep staging
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoJo Risen (Post 685130)
Hilarious. M.J. Quinn

Congrats, you know my name ….😃

GTX JOHN 08-28-2023 04:16 AM

Re: deep staging
 
My understanding and experience is if you roll
in deep enough to turn off the Pre-Stage Bulb
you immediately Red Light in our classes.

Rory McNeil 08-28-2023 08:19 AM

Re: deep staging
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 685119)
It's illegal because about 20 years ago, a few guys were winning regularly, deep. Jody, Toby, Donny Sabin, Scott Welborn.
A couple of cowboys decided to try to throw these off their game plan. They'd do a short burnout and rush up and stage and try to leave the D/S'er no time to stage.
Supposedly, NHRA put it to a vote and DEEP lost..
Problem there was the majority, who didn't go deep got to vote on something that was none of their business. On top of that, some guys right here on C/R got to mouth off, when they had no idea why the guys were going deep. They didn't understand the process at all.
Don't believe me ? Check the archives here.

Yeah, for those that thought that eliminating deep staging would throw Jody Lang off his game, must certainly be disappointed!

Larry Hill 08-28-2023 08:26 AM

Re: deep staging
 
What I didn’t like was Deep written on the window, it told the starter don’t do anything until the deep stager was ready to have the tree to start. The racers that did a quick burnout and staged quickly did they do anything wrong? Staging is like playing checkers.


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