Never to early to think about Indy and AHFS

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by GTS340

I ran 1981 Indy where there were about 180 drivers battling it out for 96 qualifying spots. All class winners got in no matter if they ran the index or not. Out of the 55 or so classes available then (front wheel drive). I bet of the 96 qualifying spots. At least 45 were class winners Bring on AHFS in that atmosphere.

Paul Haszlauer
7019 stock and SS

Paul were you able to find 1982 Indy? Where I'd like to look at it.

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Barry Polley

Ruin Indy even more? Take away 330/660 ? Really? Why not take away the score boards and the et slip at Indy if you don’t want anyone including the Association to know how fast you are.

Hope that was a joke…..

Barry unless I'm reading it wrong, they are just not going to look at the 330/660 for HP adjustments. You should still get that info on your time slips.

Originally Posted by B Parker

Barry unless I'm reading it wrong, they are just not going to look at the 330/660 for HP adjustments. You should still get that info on your time slips.

Thanks Barry. So the data will still be available to NHRA?

[Charley Downing]

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter if AHFS is ON or OFF. The Indy experience is all but dead for the SS/STK.

Quotes down from 180 to 140.
INDY bump is no long a real thing. I mean not that long ago there were 50-60 guys that did not get to race per class. At one time it was a privilege and an accomplishment to get to qualify and run eliminations at the U.S. Nationals.

Class money down from $1200-$1000 for a class win now it might be $300 if there are still three sponsors.

Allstars race moving to INDY pushing class and eliminations to an after though.

combos running -1.20 plus under to will class with no penalty

lack of teardown or staff that knows what there looking at. I think there might be 4-5 NHRA staff that actually know how to check a stk or ss car.

Combo class eliminations. This just sucks I will never understand how or why two single need to run each other for a $135 trophy.

no class winner bump in

Not racing on (Labor Day) Monday

These are what has killed the U.S. Nationals for most of us.
Until these things change INDY will never get better for STK/SS. lets Talk about there real issues.

[Billy Nees]

Boy Charlie-Bob, you pretty well nailed it!

[Frank Castros]

How many guys think Lonnie is making progress by listening to the racers and also by managing the Technical Department more effectively?
Forget about reversing the rules that have been bastardized for the past thirty years, but enforcing the rule book as it's written today in my mind is his core responsibility.
How does he do this with the current resources he has?

[mitch kight]

INDY has been ruined for those that work on there cars! aHFS will never work and the less car counts the more is does not work. So all the bitching to the AHFS and changes. Time wasted! Biggest race of NHRA and it’s a joke for Stock and Super Stock because this was a Performmance based class. Now a bracket race!

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

How many guys think Lonnie is making progress by listening to the racers and also by managing the Technical Department more effectively?
Forget about reversing the rules that have been bastardized for the past thirty years, but enforcing the rule book as it's written today in my mind is his core responsibility.
How does he do this with the current resources he has?

Frank, I'm happy we have someone in there that seems to really care and is willing to listen. And wants to do a good job. You can't make everyone happy. Tec is a tough one. These guys like us are getting older and how many people want to work12 hrs a day, three or four days in a row and get paid circus peanuts. You can't go back to the old rules and make most of everyone stuff junk. I'd like to see a little more punishment for those that are caught with the wrong parts on their cars. Just taking that race away is not going to deter anyone from doing it. Go back to the time has to meet the crime. BP

[4543]

Originally Posted by Race Clean

According a post a couple a weeks ago it was said that the only time a .950 mineshaft rule would come in effect was maybe at Indy.
That show how silly everything with this whole thing is.
Indy that time of year probably has the worst D.A on the curcuit(uncorrected tracks) so what are all doing the rest of the year?
Racers just dont want the A.H.F.S work is my conclusion.

I think you misunderstood the Indy comment. I think what was said was that Indy might be the only race that would would meet the -.95 mineshaft number. Indy is the one race a year where the best racers from the entire country come together. Even with not so good air you would expect everyone to leave it all on the track. An Indy Class win is the highlight of many racers careers. I’m still trying to get one.

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Is running combo class really out running your opponent heads Up?