Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator

fordteacherguy · 07-25-2021, 09:45 AM

Devin,

Come over and see me and Seaberg next time you are at Bremerton. There is s no mystery to make a Ford run. Look up a good combo, plan to spend money in the right places and don't compromise on quality of machine work.

I know all of the sources in our area... See you at the races!

Dave Gantz · 07-25-2021, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fordteacherguy

Look up a good combo,

That's the part he doesn't seem to want to do. I hope he changes his mind.

jmantle · 07-25-2021, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fordteacherguy

Devin,

Come over and see me and Seaberg next time you are at Bremerton. There is s no mystery to make a Ford run. Look up a good combo, plan to spend money in the right places and don't compromise on quality of machine work.

I know all of the sources in our area... See you at the races!

Good place to start, to good die hard Ford guys.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

Carguy49 · 07-26-2021, 10:24 AM

Brian Thompson and Brian Seaberg are both great guys.

Their Ford knowledge is great. They can answer most anything that you might want to know, about Ford stuff and Stock Eliminator drag racing in general.

Two really great guys that are great friends also. Lots to like about these two guys. Always fun to hang with when I am at the drags.

Signman · 07-26-2021, 06:27 PM

Get a copy of the rule book read it and know it. Know all the underlying rules that build to Stock Eliminator and beyond. Make it work for you in place of hindering you. It's just a point of view to decide to take.

Know the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System. Period.

Study combinations and know the one you choose. Talk to others who run it or and/or know more than you. If given advice at least try it sometimes it's a process that's layered. One piece of advice builds on to the next. Generally if you ask for advice then go back for more not trying what was already given you're a tire kicker and not serious. You have to work on your car!

The most important thing is to race, get the car out there. As for performance the bottom line is simple:

The Bracket Racer. Be happy with the performance you have and race, suffer and accept the consequences of the ladder and heads up races.

The #1 Qualifier / Record Setter. Do the work and spend the money to set records and be the fastest in the country. It's not all spending money it has to be spent correctly and the associated work done the best you can and better. Be ready to chase your tale to protect the combination to keep the advantage you worked and spent for.

The Bottom Line (this is my opinion only others may vary) To be competitive in the eliminator have to be able to go a second under your index where ever you race. It forces the competition (and you) to accept hitting a AHFS trigger in a heads up (no easy HU runs against you) plus it allows you move around the ladder if you choose to play the ladder game.

Good Luck and Many Win Lights

F677 · 07-26-2021, 06:46 PM

Frank,
That's the all BS aside shot I like. I admit, I know I'm coming in as the bracket racer. My combo will not be easy, or likely to be 1 under. If it won't run .5 under I'll tear it apart and try again. Hoping for .8 to be honest. This is my "dip my toe in" start to big kid racing to see if it suits me. If it does, a more favorable (Ford) combo will follow. I hope to get to know you all soon, and you'll see that I'm no rub. If I'm in, I'm in, and I won't worry too much about the ladder.

fordteacherguy · 07-26-2021, 10:52 PM

Devin,

Looking over the 67 289 4v combo it has some good traits, +11:1 compression, heads are ok...typical small valve SBF head...making the Autolite 4300 4v work might be a challenge..small float bowl...there was a reason we called them toilet bowls in the.day...bone up on that particular carb tuning. Not a lot of stuff for that carb out there. Don't see it being a killer, but if you are determined...it looks like it could do the index...wish it had a better carb though...

1347 · 07-27-2021, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fordteacherguy

Devin,

Looking over the 67 289 4v combo it has some good traits, +11:1 compression, heads are ok...typical small valve SBF head...making the Autolite 4300 4v work might be a challenge..small float bowl...there was a reason we called them toilet bowls in the.day...bone up on that particular carb tuning. Not a lot of stuff for that carb out there. Don't see it being a killer, but if you are determined...it looks like it could do the index...wish it had a better carb though...

Devin,
You may be better off running that car in super stock with that engine, you can run the replacement aluminum head, and it will be fine with a 9" tire and a caltrac. Whether you run stock or super stock, Vern Buchanan would be the person to talk to about doing the carb.
Good luck with the project

07-26-2021, 10:24 AM	#4
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,993 Likes: 2,579 Liked 3,015 Times in 721 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator Brian Thompson and Brian Seaberg are both great guys. Their Ford knowledge is great. They can answer most anything that you might want to know, about Ford stuff and Stock Eliminator drag racing in general. Two really great guys that are great friends also. Lots to like about these two guys. Always fun to hang with when I am at the drags. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.

07-26-2021, 06:27 PM	#5
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator Get a copy of the rule book read it and know it. Know all the underlying rules that build to Stock Eliminator and beyond. Make it work for you in place of hindering you. It's just a point of view to decide to take. Know the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System. Period. Study combinations and know the one you choose. Talk to others who run it or and/or know more than you. If given advice at least try it sometimes it's a process that's layered. One piece of advice builds on to the next. Generally if you ask for advice then go back for more not trying what was already given you're a tire kicker and not serious. You have to work on your car! The most important thing is to race, get the car out there. As for performance the bottom line is simple: The Bracket Racer. Be happy with the performance you have and race, suffer and accept the consequences of the ladder and heads up races. The #1 Qualifier / Record Setter. Do the work and spend the money to set records and be the fastest in the country. It's not all spending money it has to be spent correctly and the associated work done the best you can and better. Be ready to chase your tale to protect the combination to keep the advantage you worked and spent for. The Bottom Line (this is my opinion only others may vary) To be competitive in the eliminator have to be able to go a second under your index where ever you race. It forces the competition (and you) to accept hitting a AHFS trigger in a heads up (no easy HU runs against you) plus it allows you move around the ladder if you choose to play the ladder game. Good Luck and Many Win Lights __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"

07-26-2021, 06:46 PM	#6
F677 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Roy WA Posts: 10 Likes: 30 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator Frank, That's the all BS aside shot I like. I admit, I know I'm coming in as the bracket racer. My combo will not be easy, or likely to be 1 under. If it won't run .5 under I'll tear it apart and try again. Hoping for .8 to be honest. This is my "dip my toe in" start to big kid racing to see if it suits me. If it does, a more favorable (Ford) combo will follow. I hope to get to know you all soon, and you'll see that I'm no rub. If I'm in, I'm in, and I won't worry too much about the ladder. __________________ Devin Froud Div. 6 Roy Wa

07-26-2021, 10:52 PM	#7
fordteacherguy Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Federal Way, WA Posts: 239 Likes: 38 Liked 160 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator Devin, Looking over the 67 289 4v combo it has some good traits, +11:1 compression, heads are ok...typical small valve SBF head...making the Autolite 4300 4v work might be a challenge..small float bowl...there was a reason we called them toilet bowls in the.day...bone up on that particular carb tuning. Not a lot of stuff for that carb out there. Don't see it being a killer, but if you are determined...it looks like it could do the index...wish it had a better carb though... __________________ Brian Thompson NHRA Stock / Super Stock Class P/SA 6665 SS/MA 6665

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07-25-2021, 09:45 AM	#1
fordteacherguy Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Federal Way, WA Posts: 239 Likes: 38 Liked 160 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator Devin, Come over and see me and Seaberg next time you are at Bremerton. There is s no mystery to make a Ford run. Look up a good combo, plan to spend money in the right places and don't compromise on quality of machine work. I know all of the sources in our area... See you at the races! __________________ Brian Thompson NHRA Stock / Super Stock Class P/SA 6665 SS/MA 6665