And the penalties are???

[Bryan Worner]

Originally Posted by bubski

OMG !! this is the post of the year !! BUBSKI would like to know how a contender for the national and divisional championship does not know the year of his car and or GT engine combo ?? Did you claim the wrong combo at the previous races you did well at ?? Bubski wonders what happened to the class racer that knew everything about their combo and anyone else in their class !! I guess that train of thought is long gone !! How are the tech people supposed to know you made an honest mistake ?? I No matter the circumstances Bubski would think you would at least know what class your running !! If you were claiming the wrong combo prior to getting tossed !! Do you think it offends the people you sent home ??

And who is Bubski??

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

And who is Bubski??

Bubski is a troll who talks about himself in the third person because he's a legend in his own mind.

[Shadylane]

I have a bit of a different take on this. We have complained for several years that NHRA is not doing tech the way we think it should be done, which I agree with. However when they do their job as is the case with Mr. Summers and Mr. Phillips a lot of people are upset not by the results of the inspection but by the penalty’s involved.
In the case of Mr. Summers did NHRA overreact? We have read what NHRA posted, his carburetor was modified. What does that mean? I wasn’t there during the inspection and I would guess neither were any of you, with the exception of Mr. Summers. He posted on this forum that his carb booster was too shiny. Kind of sounded to me like he was down playing it, like it was no big deal. Maybe I would do the same to save face. Was there more to it than that? Obviously NHRA thought so, combined with a previous violation they finally made a statement by putting some teeth into their tech inspection and subsequent violation and it has not been well received. I think what NHRA has done is what we have asked them to do, taking care of business.
Maybe I’m missing something here.

Kelly Lane
4991 Stock

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Shadylane

In the case of Mr. Summers did NHRA overreact? Maybe I’m missing something here. Kelly Lane 4991 Stock

Kelly, what's missing here is that there are apparently at least two conflicting stories and rules enforcements going on. For the past few years (since NHRA approved the use of "aftermarket" carburetors in place of certain Holley carbs) NHRA's "policy" has been to "only check venturi size and throttle bores". Carb boosters became a moot point because the "aftermarket" carbs that they approved had completely different boosters in them compared to the OEM carbs.
Now I'll be right up-front here and tell you that the boosters in one of my combos aren't the original or correct boosters but when I mentioned it to an NHRA Tech, I was told the "venturi size and throttle bore" story. Am I legal? Am I not? I've been allowed to run. If I am suddenly NOT legal, I wish that somebody would let me know of a policy or rule change! I don't like being ambushed!
I am certainly not one of Mr. Summers best buddies and I don't know if there is more to the story but from what I've read I would say that Mr. Summers was ambushed.

[BG56]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Kelly, what's missing here is that there are apparently at least two conflicting stories and rules enforcements going on. For the past few years (since NHRA approved the use of "aftermarket" carburetors in place of certain Holley carbs) NHRA's "policy" has been to "only check venturi size and throttle bores". Carb boosters became a moot point because the "aftermarket" carbs that they approved had completely different boosters in them compared to the OEM carbs.
Now I'll be right up-front here and tell you that the boosters in one of my combos aren't the original or correct boosters but when I mentioned it to an NHRA Tech, I was told the "venturi size and throttle bore" story. Am I legal? Am I not? I've been allowed to run. If I am suddenly NOT legal, I wish that somebody would let me know of a policy or rule change! I don't like being ambushed!
I am certainly not one of Mr. Summers best buddies and I don't know if there is more to the story but from what I've read I would say that Mr. Summers was ambushed.

Billy, are you in the belief that "they" were determined to find "something-anything" to bounce a previous offender with a too-fast run/car? (Not a loaded question, but let's cut to the chase)

[L.Fite]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Kelly, what's missing here is that there are apparently at least two conflicting stories and rules enforcements going on. For the past few years (since NHRA approved the use of "aftermarket" carburetors in place of certain Holley carbs) NHRA's "policy" has been to "only check venturi size and throttle bores". Carb boosters became a moot point because the "aftermarket" carbs that they approved had completely different boosters in them compared to the OEM carbs.
Now I'll be right up-front here and tell you that the boosters in one of my combos aren't the original or correct boosters but when I mentioned it to an NHRA Tech, I was told the "venturi size and throttle bore" story. Am I legal? Am I not? I've been allowed to run. If I am suddenly NOT legal, I wish that somebody would let me know of a policy or rule change! I don't like being ambushed!
I am certainly not one of Mr. Summers best buddies and I don't know if there is more to the story but from what I've read I would say that Mr. Summers was ambushed.

When I asked Tech. in reference to 396/427, I was also told venturi and throttle bore...
I said "so any 3310 Holley?"...
They said yes...
So I don't know...
The rule also states "no polishing or removal of flash"...
Is that what the Tech. Official saw?...

What I do know is if I had a 50 yr. old vintage carb. I'm not so sure I would allow them to keep it...

We'll have to see what happens if I ever find myself in that predicament...

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

And who is Bubski??

Some loser no doubt who wouldn't have the balls to say that stupid **** to your face.

[Chad Fergen]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

And who is Bubski??

Wasn't he the bowler guy in that one movie?

[GUMP]

.......Had tech came over with that news after that run, I would have said, ok, let me fix my mistake, throw the run out and let’s move on! That DQ ended up costing me the division championship and a number 2 national finish.

You do the crime, you do the time. Technically you cheated your competitors. If you agree that they could throw out a qualifying run, you are agreeing that they can throw you out on any run. It sucks, but that was the rule at the time.

I would have been more curious to know who pointed out to the officials that your claim was wrong.......

[1347]

I am not applying this to what has happened recently, but I wonder if a fine will deter people more than a suspension? In Nascar, drivers lose points and there are fines attached. Drivers still get to race the following week. Crew cheifs get suspended, but not drivers. Now you can say that the drivers don't work on the car, but in our racing, there are many who don't work on their car either.

Just a question.