And the penalties are???

[Bryan Worner]

What they are is BULL****!!!! Cody and Gary, my statement here is nothing personal and I have no beef with either of you, but your penalties piss me off and I’ll explain why! A few year ago, I was in both the national and divisional championship hunt! I had won second round of eliminations at a Lucas oil race (in division) and was getting ready to go up for round three, when here came the tech guys on the golf cart into my pit! They advised me that I could not legally run the class I was running with the car I was claiming. I was dq’d from the race, receiving THE SAME PUNISHMENT that these two received for using illegal parts for performance gains! Now I did make a mistake, that was correctable by changing the year of my car on my tech card. It was a mistake on my part because I got to the track late and was a little rushed to get up there for the first qualifying run. I would not have even tried to make that run but weather was threatening to disrupt the rest of the day, so I wanted that run. Had tech came over with that news after that run, I would have said, ok, let me fix my mistake, throw the run out and let’s move on! That DQ ended up costing me the division championship and a number 2 national finish.

My point being these two get the same punishment for using illegal parts for a performance gain as I did for claiming the wrong year car for the GT class I was running! (Rule changed this year making that mistake impossible). So you can see why this punishment downright offends me! Hell, it should give those who need the help the incentive to cheat! What’s the worst that can happen? A slap on the wrist apparently!!! And for a repeat offender at that!!

[Dave Ficacci]

The risk vs reward incentive to cheat just went WAY up

[doglover44]

so nobody gets grounded / time off for punishment anymore ?

[Brett C]

Sad!

[Jeff Johnson]

Originally Posted by doglover44

so nobody gets grounded / time off for punishment anymore ?

Hard to Collect Entry Fee when said racer is not allowed to enter race$$$

[doglover44]

Originally Posted by Jeff Johnson

Hard to Collect Entry Fee when said racer is not allowed to enter race$$$

Makes sense

[Larry Hill]

Ordered parts for my new 500 inch stock/bracket roller motor, not. What a disappointment in NHRA. So if we go to tear down we point out something easy to get DQ on but nothing else is checked for size or volume.

Allen here is your chance to own a pink car.

I’m building a bracket car. A class win has been sold for a few silver coins.
Skip the middle man and go to the NHRA eBay site and get your own bowling trophies for pennies on the dollar.

Gargle, Swallow, Repeat !

[Frank Castros]

The N.H.R.A. is listening to the members of this forum as I'm sure they do, how they process the feedback is anyone's guess. I'm challenged to how they make these poor decisions such as the Summers and Phillips incidents. Yet they severely punish Bryan Worner who was not cheating but made an honest mistake.
The Division and Technical Directors need to review the thought process of their decisions.

[bubski]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

What they are is BULL****!!!! Cody and Gary, my statement here is nothing personal and I have no beef with either of you, but your penalties piss me off and I’ll explain why! A few year ago, I was in both the national and divisional championship hunt! I had won second round of eliminations at a Lucas oil race (in division) and was getting ready to go up for round three, when here came the tech guys on the golf cart into my pit! They advised me that I could not legally run the class I was running with the car I was claiming. I was dq’d from the race, receiving THE SAME PUNISHMENT that these two received for using illegal parts for performance gains! Now I did make a mistake, that was correctable by changing the year of my car on my tech card. It was a mistake on my part because I got to the track late and was a little rushed to get up there for the first qualifying run. I would not have even tried to make that run but weather was threatening to disrupt the rest of the day, so I wanted that run. Had tech came over with that news after that run, I would have said, ok, let me fix my mistake, throw the run out and let’s move on! That DQ ended up costing me the division championship and a number 2 national finish.

My point being these two get the same punishment for using illegal parts for a performance gain as I did for claiming the wrong year car for the GT class I was running! (Rule changed this year making that mistake impossible). So you can see why this punishment downright offends me! Hell, it should give those who need the help the incentive to cheat! What’s the worst that can happen? A slap on the wrist apparently!!! And for a repeat offender at that!!

OMG !! this is the post of the year !! BUBSKI would like to know how a contender for the national and divisional championship does not know the year of his car and or GT engine combo ?? Did you claim the wrong combo at the previous races you did well at ?? Bubski wonders what happened to the class racer that knew everything about their combo and anyone else in their class !! I guess that train of thought is long gone !! How are the tech people supposed to know you made an honest mistake ?? I No matter the circumstances Bubski would think you would at least know what class your running !! If you were claiming the wrong combo prior to getting tossed !! Do you think it offends the people you sent home ??

[Bryan Worner]

Originally Posted by bubski

OMG !! this is the post of the year !! BUBSKI would like to know how a contender for the national and divisional championship does not know the year of his car and or GT engine combo ?? Did you claim the wrong combo at the previous races you did well at ?? Bubski wonders what happened to the class racer that knew everything about their combo and anyone else in their class !! I guess that train of thought is long gone !! How are the tech people supposed to know you made an honest mistake ?? I No matter the circumstances Bubski would think you would at least know what class your running !! If you were claiming the wrong combo prior to getting tossed !! Do you think it offends the people you sent home ??

The old GT rule had a formula based on the shipping weight. With my car and engine combo, I could run multiple GT classes and claim either an 86-87 Z28, as well as a1990 IROC Z to run SS/JA At the previous race I ran GT/KA which is an 11 lb weight break, the same as SS/JA which is what I run most of the summer. However, due to the old GT formula, I had to claim a lighter car to run GT/JA, which is the Z28. As I stated earlier, I arrived late, and was in a hurry to get to the lanes for Q1! I mistakenly claimed the year car to run GT/KA when I was running GT/JA. No difference in the car at all. I didn’t have to change anything to run these multiple classes. Do you not call that an honest mistake, compared to using an illegal part??? By the way, that GT formula has been deleted from the rules so now I can claim the 1990 IROC Z and legally run all of the above classes.