Out of the loop in superstock....

[Kevin Panzino]

Where in the rulebook does it state that a converter dump valve is illegal?

[jamie2370]

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino

Where in the rulebook does it state that a converter dump valve is illegal?

I'll answer that one, because it was answered to me. If the rulebook does not say you CAN do it, then you CAN'T.

[Joey Bohannon]

Lol....the word innovation is sure getting used a lot in place of cheating.

[Joey Bohannon]

Originally Posted by Sean Cour

Joey, so colluding with a sanctioning body, to oust a mod that has been stamped legal for years, just to feel good about your inability to innovate, is suppose to make you feel good?

Strange way of doing business, don't you think?

I showed you the email of the rules we were told to play by, so yes sir....your stuff needs to get bounced in my eyes. I adhere to the rules as does my engine builder. We have to worry about winning races and therefore we need to worry about being legal in every division, not just 1 or 7.

[Joey Bohannon]

And since we are at it.

Gas Ported pistons
Aftermarkets Cranks
Honda Journals
Chamber Mods

It all started in the same place, cheating is not innovation......its cheating no matter what his minions call it.

And as far as Jeff, hell yeah he did the right thing. He has customers spending 10s of thousands trying to run with people that hasn't ever been able to follow a rulebook. It came right out of your own mouth that you wouldn't ask permission.....well that sir doesn't make it right and it damn sure doesn't give you all the right to stop your feet when you get called out on it.

[Kevin Panzino]

Originally Posted by jamie2370

I'll answer that one, because it was answered to me. If the rulebook does not say you CAN do it, then you CAN'T.

So with that logic, and just keeping it related to the transmission: We all have to remove our straight-cut/different than OEM ratio gearsets, take out our roller bearings and go back to bushings, remove our low volume front pump and put a stock one back on, make sure we run the correct number of clutches and steels that the OEM trans had, remove the aluminum drums and put the cast iron OEM ones back in etc etc etc ?

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino

So with that logic, and just keeping it related to the transmission: We all have to remove our straight-cut/different than OEM ratio gearsets, take out our roller bearings and go back to bushings, remove our low volume front pump and put a stock one back on, make sure we run the correct number of clutches and steels that the OEM trans had, remove the aluminum drums and put the cast iron OEM ones back in etc etc etc ?

Mine has all of that stuff except the lower ratio first gear. One reason I am slow. LOL

[jamie2370]

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino

So with that logic, and just keeping it related to the transmission: We all have to remove our straight-cut/different than OEM ratio gearsets, take out our roller bearings and go back to bushings, remove our low volume front pump and put a stock one back on, make sure we run the correct number of clutches and steels that the OEM trans had, remove the aluminum drums and put the cast iron OEM ones back in etc etc etc ?

No, because all those parts are replacement for original parts in the trans. A fluid dump valve is not and never has been a part of a transmission. Its new technology. As far as i know, only a th400 has been built right now with the technology. I could be wrong. It also mounts externally so it would be fairly easy to police.

[jamie2370]

I take that back, th400 and PG. I would love to have one in my stocker. Make the converter loose at the hit so it will 60' and then tighten it up down track to improve ET

[Sean Cour]

Originally Posted by Joey Bohannon

And since we are at it.

Gas Ported pistons
Aftermarkets Cranks
Honda Journals
Chamber Mods

It all started in the same place, cheating is not innovation......its cheating no matter what his minions call it.

And as far as Jeff, hell yeah he did the right thing. He has customers spending 10s of thousands trying to run with people that hasn't ever been able to follow a rulebook. It came right out of your own mouth that you wouldn't ask permission.....well that sir doesn't make it right and it damn sure doesn't give you all the right to stop your feet when you get called out on it.

I’m am literally LMAO! You’re stomping your feet right now. The rule book gets updated every time Jeff and the D3 posse cry to NHRA.
Jeff has been caught cheating numerous times....delay boxes, bigger cic than claiming, so your point is.....well.....laughable!