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Old 06-12-2017, 02:15 PM   #1
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$250? Frank if you wanna compare big events such as a national or divisional costing money. World footbrake challenge is in a few weeks. That's gonna cost $800 just to roll through the front gate. Not counting the 10 hour tow. Gas and hotel. Buy backs. So you can triple your compared 1k investment to come race with us for the weekend.
Denny you overlooked the cost of a competitive stocker to be able to play the ladder game if desired. Had a conversation about a top of the line 69 Camaro last week we estimated it would cost in the area of 120K+ to build new. It isn't just entry fees you need a weapon: The car needs to be competitive in a heads up situation which doesn't happen all the time but you need to be prepared while also being consistent enough to go rounds. Then using only enough in a HU protecting the combination your invested money and blood in to keep an edge over the competition in your class. The last 2 years my car sucked in the bracket tuneup had in it as soon as I let it make power is consistent.

Comparing LODRS to WFC is apples and oranges. 1K was used as a basic cost it's actually more most of the time to race LODRS for points as you fellas did to qualify to race this past weekend at a cost of around 250 per race.

To me the WFC may be compared to a national event or even the US Nationals since it's once a year. The best of the best foot break racers attend the WFC, if you think your stocker is fast then you go to the US Nationals to race class.
Anyone that wishes can enter the WFC but the US Nationals am sure is difficult to gain entry without at least 5 GP.
We can talk about how much it costs to race at each and would think the US Nationals costs way way more everything considered. Your investment in the WFC is a way better value if you believe you can get in the money. On the other hand if you have a fast stocker a Wally for a Class Win at Indy is a treasure for most of us.
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Old 06-12-2017, 02:18 PM   #2
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That's like asking "What does a Camaro cost?" Entry fees range from $15 for a trophy to $2,000 for $1 Million (based on 500 cars... winners typically get $250,000+). We have a race coming up at Kil-Kare in two weeks. $290 entry fee for the weekend gets you into three races, $5K/$10K/$5K. How much the entry fee/payout/car investment is irrelevant, and doesn't make anyone better than anyone else. I have a $5,000 Stocker, and had a $30,000 Super Stocker. Who cares?

Mike was comparing to the cost of the average PRO Eliminator race for points toward track championship and the breacket finals team which is what got these fellas in to the Summer nationals.
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the US Nationals am sure is difficult to gain entry without at least 5 GP.
I got into Indy with a grade point 1 in 2008.


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was comparing to the cost of the average PRO Eliminator race for points toward track championship and the breacket finals team which is what got these fellas in to the Summer nationals.
So?


What is the point of comparing the entry fees and various investments in different cars? Nothing. It was not a full bracket race field. It was not Pro ET cars running in Stock Eliminator. It was a specialty shootout with 8 cars. I've never seen so many people lose their minds over nothing.
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Old 06-12-2017, 03:16 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=7 It was not a full bracket race field. It was not Pro ET cars running in Stock Eliminator. It was a specialty shootout with 8 cars. I've never seen so many people lose their minds over nothing.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely and positively. Well said.
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What is the point of comparing the entry fees and various investments in different cars? Nothing. It was not a full bracket race field. It was not Pro ET cars running in Stock Eliminator. It was a specialty shootout with 8 cars. I've never seen so many people lose their minds over nothing.
Jealousy will do that. Maybe they should try their hand at bracket racing, they might learn something. All they need is a bottle of shoe polish.................never mind, y'all already have one.
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I got into Indy with a grade point 1 in 2008.




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What is the point of comparing the entry fees and various investments in different cars? Nothing. It was not a full bracket race field. It was not Pro ET cars running in Stock Eliminator. It was a specialty shootout with 8 cars. I've never seen so many people lose their minds over nothing.


There was a comment about the cost I was explaining the difference! It costs way less to campaign a foot break car than a competitive stocker. Just fact I did it! There are some cheap ways to race a stocker but an 11 or 10 second car it is not cheap! Most of these guys in the shootout are in 9 second cars and will not spend what it takes to own a 9 second stocker.
The cost to go to a bracket race at your local track is nothing compared to and LODRS race. Personal experience.

I compared the US Nationals to the World Footbrake Challenge because both are considered to be at the highest level of competition for each. A comparison was made between an LODRS race and the WFC apples and oranges.

Cutting and pasting from posts may make a point but leaves out the context of the original.
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