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Old 07-18-2015, 10:32 PM   #1
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Default Re: NHRA ProStock changes coming!

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Alan , only you would find it "bizarre and "amusing".
What so bizarre and amusing? Rules changes to a class that's waaay overdue? Yeah , thats pretty "bizarre" and "amusing".
Forget about engines that are "EXACT" to production platforms , BECAUSE A 500 INCH ENGINE SURE AS HELL ISNT...............it doesn''t matter that Ford doesn't have a good 2 valve combo , or Dodge or whatever. I'm talking purpose built race engines on a smaller scale. The 500 inch engines are so far removed from anything production...... AT A MINIMUM wholesale changes need to be made to represent todays engine displacements closer to 350 -427 inches...then add fuel injection......whatever. Carbs have to go. Its really very simple and some of you seem to over dramatize or attempt to complicate a simple solution........forget about the Pintos , Vega's and Arrows , EXPs.
Settle on " A " displacement more indicative of todays cars. The changes about Pro Stock cannot be an intention to make a change while keeping those participating happy at the exclusion of attracting new participants.
And theres a fine line between exclusion and extinction.
What I find amusing is that you seem to be willing to spend other people's money, and force them to submit to your demands, in a class they race in. Do you participate in Pro Stock? Do you have money in the class?

Exactly what is it that makes you think that Pro Stock needs to represent current production engines? It has not done that in a solid 40 years, and the class is not dead yet.

There is nothing simple about what you propose. I guess you didn't read what Wescott wrote. Either that or it just doesn't matter to you that your "simple solution" just completely kills his massive investment of cash and time. Yeah, you telling Wescott, and a couple dozen other struggling Pro Stock racers to go get screwed "because the class has to change", at least according to you, isn't dramatic. At least not to you, since you don't have $250K+ tied up in a racing operation and your struggling to stay in the game. I'm sure it is real simple to you to just rewrite all the rules, and render their massive investment completely worthless. They won't find their life's investment going down the toilet to be the slightest bit dramatic.

It's always great when people come along and tell you that you must allow them to completely change the very character of something you do in order for them to "save it". I'm sure the Pro Stock racers are thrilled to have you decide for them what should go on in their class.

What is next for you? Are you going to tell Force, Schumacer, and Kalitta, among others, that they must convert to 4 valve per cylinder DOHC I4 and V6 engines, gasoline, and turbochargers? I mean, after all, they're racing those dinosaur engines with those monster superchargers that are nothing like what the factories are producing.
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Old 07-19-2015, 12:09 AM   #2
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Default Re: NHRA ProStock changes coming!

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What I find amusing is that you seem to be willing to spend other people's money, and force them to submit to your demands, in a class they race in. Do you participate in Pro Stock? Do you have money in the class?

Exactly what is it that makes you think that Pro Stock needs to represent current production engines? It has not done that in a solid 40 years, and the class is not dead yet.

There is nothing simple about what you propose. I guess you didn't read what Wescott wrote. Either that or it just doesn't matter to you that your "simple solution" just completely kills his massive investment of cash and time. Yeah, you telling Wescott, and a couple dozen other struggling Pro Stock racers to go get screwed "because the class has to change", at least according to you, isn't dramatic. At least not to you, since you don't have $250K+ tied up in a racing operation and your struggling to stay in the game. I'm sure it is real simple to you to just rewrite all the rules, and render their massive investment completely worthless. They won't find their life's investment going down the toilet to be the slightest bit dramatic.

It's always great when people come along and tell you that you must allow them to completely change the very character of something you do in order for them to "save it". I'm sure the Pro Stock racers are thrilled to have you decide for them what should go on in their class.

What is next for you? Are you going to tell Force, Schumacer, and Kalitta, among others, that they must convert to 4 valve per cylinder DOHC I4 and V6 engines, gasoline, and turbochargers? I mean, after all, they're racing those dinosaur engines with those monster superchargers that are nothing like what the factories are producing.
Well Alan.....let the NHRA decide..........apparently they seem to see things with a "winds of change" mindset.
You embrace the "status quo" ...........the "status quo" isn't working.
Like it or not , it needs to change.
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