What's wrong with Stock?

[Jack McCarthy]

as one of the 17 cars under HP review today...i cannot state how pis#$%^d off i am about the 27 cars without review because they are "SPECIAL"....

well i was the oldest stocker to win class, fastest VIN car without a HP debacle in the last 3-4 years... so im under review...

lousy #31 on the sheet > gee thanks NHRA
i am sure glad roy WANTED to be part of the 60th Big Fiasco.

seeyall in columbus about -.54 under

captain jack

i did get to beat that mustang II >> HeHe !!!

[Bunkster]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

....i am sure glad roy WANTED to be part of the 60th Big Fiasco...

Too many don't recall, or aren't aware, of the stock final in 1986.

[Wayne W]

How about. New cars in Stock and older cars in Jr. Stock ??

Just a thought.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Wayne W

How about. New cars in Stock and older cars in Jr. Stock ??

Just a thought.

Good post but a lot of the older car racers have the "EGO" thing. Not a bad thing but its there none the less about being in a "lesser" program. Local racing years ago split the cars into Top Stock, Middle stock, and Jr. Stock. NHRA had Top Stock and Jr. stock because of minor rule differences and tire size but today we have Super Stock. The older cars and the new stuff (2008 and newer) just needs to be factored correctly. The speed difference could be a safety issue. The win and round money wont improve with a new eliminator either. Just thoughts of a long time ago vs today. I hope NHRA gets their act together soon. In my opinion (I know.....that dosent mean poop) the new car factors are not even close yet. Just mentioned some things for the young guys who were not there in the "stone age".

[Kenny Wigington]

Just a suggestion, from my little brain. Since the factories have successfully lobbied and gotten the HP ratings they wanted, and they are at the forefront, where they wanted them to be to begin with,let's all get together. All that see this as a grave disservice to the racers that have supported Stock and SS, lets put together a list of names, and comp #'s, and all stay behind it, and send it to NHRA. All of us, realize, that all 3 wanted and got what they wanted, so do us a solid favor, to keep us here. Give us all say.75/second( or something like it) back on our indexes. Lets square this , for all of us. You had an extra $18K from non qualifiers from Indy. That's your icing. Let's share the cake , we all enjoy.

Talk is talk. Lets all do something, and or scuff our shoes in the dirt.

[Jim Bailey]

Just do what Tavis and Bruce proposed four (4) years ago...( before it was shot down by the SRAC ). Make the AHFS instant hit at 1.0 second under. Then apply it across the board for all cars in Stock and SS eliminator. This will help factor all soft combos and speed up the process tremendously!

[FireSale]

By the numbers a C/SA running 1.0 under the index is a 10.40 car. The B/SA index is 11.25, so the C/SA car is still a competitive 0.85 under the B/SA index.

How about a variation of the breakout rule where qualifying 1.0 or greater under index bumps the car up a class and 1.0 or more under during eliminations is a breakout loss?

Let the cars at the top of the class ladder qualify against the National record since there's no upper class to bump them to. Or would that just tick people off?

Dale

[AlanPetersJr.]

Hi guys, this has been an interesting read. I'm glad that i grew up in a time
when i watched my dad Al Sr. build and machine his own engines,4 speeds
set up rears cams(you get the picture) I was also fortunate to go to many
Div. 1 races and learn watching all these TOUGH racers work on their cars.
This helped me to prepare my own stock elim. car (thanks Barry & Gary
Parker, Don Scinto, Eddie Bednaz and the rest) To me, making your car
run under or set the record (I did 3 times) is half the fun! The other fun
part is turning on the win light! If I could turn on the time machine I'd proabally
set it to 1970's stock elim (with a 4 speed of course!) I feel that ALL
stockers should play with the same set of rules. Also what about IHRA?
I know the payout is not there,but when the car count goes up, I'm sure the
money will follow.One final thing,I have always felt that NHRA has always
treated the stockers like 2nd class citizens. My form of class racing will
consist of stock / super stock all-star type races, have run racing your
friends. making new ones and maybe win a few bucks.Not feeding the NHRA
money machine... Just my 2 cents Al jr.

[Rose Racing]

Originally Posted by Bunkster

Too many don't recall, or aren't aware, of the stock final in 1986.

fill us in please

[Bunkster]

Originally Posted by Rose Racing

fill us in please

Merely that Mr. McCarthy mentioned “Roy”, who ran his wagon this year at Indy.

Roy Dean has run a wagon at Indy before. In 1986, Roy, in his R/SA, was runner up to Gary Long in his F/S Mercury.

Just some pleasant memories.