Wheelie Bars are not needed for Safety on Stockers!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

Thanks for the FYI but I knew what you did on Kevin's car. I have seen you bragging about it on here before. So what part of my post was wrong? You don't own a car, you assumed I can't dosomething, since i dont do what you do i am not good enough to respond, and when I seen you at BG a few weeks ago you were running the grill and talking. Lol

Let me know when you have something of importance to contribute, to anything. The only thing you did in this thread was to make a pitiful attempt to insult people. You have absolutely nothing what so ever of value, importance, or intelligence to add to the discussion. THAT is why no one listens when you "respond". That, and you do not participate in class racing in any form that anyone is aware of.

You "seen" me? Well congratulations, I'm really happy for you, genius.

Yeah, we have a good time at the races, we cook on the grill, and we sit around and talk among friends. What of it?

I have wasted enough valuable time with your assinine stupidity. I'm done, go bother someone else who has time to be bothered with you.

[Crisco]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

I thought that's what this board was? Every time I look at it you guys are crying about something. Matter of fact a lot of the things 1320 mentioned, you guys have been known to bitch about. Oh the irony.

No insults in this post towards anyone..

[Ken Miele]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

I thought that's what this board was? Every time I look at it you guys are crying about something. Matter of fact a lot of the things 1320 mentioned, you guys have been known to bitch about. Oh the irony.

Nathan,

The above statement is insulting to me and not helpful in anyway. Yes we have issues with not only NHRA but each other, but it would be like me going into the Top Sportsmen section and posting. I know many Top Sportsmen racers, but I do not presume to know anything about their type of racing. I would never go into a forum and post as you did without walking in their shoes first.

I guess I'm the sensitive type, but you could have worded it differently or just not posted.

Crisco, I guess we look through a different set of glasses...... I was insulted.

[Bruce Noland]

This forum is for and about class racers. We were debating the obvious need for wheelie bars when it was interrupted by several people trying to compare class cars to 10.5 cars. Which of course didn't work out for them. Now we have some bracket guys with childish chips on their shoulders hurling insults. Bracket guys have their sites and can contribute all they want but coming here just to be ugly when you don't get your way is unacceptable. Alan has raced in nhra stock and coninues to build and crew Stockers. Alan has been a valuable contributor to this site. I think Mr Stinson has shown enough ugliness to be banned. And should be.

This thread was derailed by the bracket guys and we need to return to the original intent. Which is, the idiotic ruling by nhra to change or remove our wheelie bars, at great expense and risk to the racers, nhra staff and nearby crew members. nhra tech has been reduced to puppet status by nhra and picking on little body modifications like this shows they have been neutered. Bruce isn't attending many national events and I don't think they have torn down 3 cars this year. That leaves the door open for all sorts of chicanery. How long has it been since nhra drug tested the racers?

[Nathan Stinson]

who is the bracket racer you're talking about Bruce. Why should I be banned for stating the truth in my first post in the thread?

[Nathan Stinson]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Nathan,

The above statement is insulting to me and not helpful in anyway. Yes we have issues with not only NHRA but each other, but it would be like me going into the Top Sportsmen section and posting. I know many Top Sportsmen racers, but I do not presume to know anything about their type of racing. I would never go into a forum and post as you did without walking in their shoes first.

I guess I'm the sensitive type, but you could have worded it differently or just not posted.

Crisco, I guess we look through a different set of glasses...... I was insulted.

Sorry if the truth insulted you. I can only go by what I read on here. There have been countless threads about cost, nhra, entry fees, rules etc all complaining. If I hated it that bad I would do something else.

[Ken Miele]

Nathan,

No need to be sorry, truth is good. Your post goes beyond just truth, its more about your opinion of the class racing community. like I said, you set the tone with your post. It was disrespectful and should have been reworded. If you had shown respect, I like many others would not be posting.

Sorry Bruce for taking this off topic.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Nathan Stinson

Sorry if the truth insulted you. I can only go by what I read on here. There have been countless threads about cost, nhra, entry fees, rules etc all complaining. If I hated it that bad I would do something else.

You confuse passion for our chosen part of the sport for hatred. We all complain about the government too, but that doesn't mean we hate our country. We love stock and SS, it's still one of the most challenging classes out there. A lot of people don't like or understand class racing, that's fine. But you don't see us on a bracket racing or heads up racing board, telling them how they're "doing it wrong". Several bracket/heads up racers already chimed in here with their .02, long before you arrived.

To sum it up, when it comes to rules and race procedures, we really don't care what those who don't participate in class racing think.

[Crisco]

If your stocker needs wheelie bars, put them on along with the stock bumper cover with no cutouts or notches like the rule book says and go racing. Chad and Alan, yall don't know Nathan like I do. Probably never even met him... He knows his stuff and would be the first one to help out any of you guys.

Yall have a great day, I'm going to the pool.

[Crisco]

Alan, Ed and Nathan aren't buddies.. trust me.