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Old 05-17-2013, 04:00 PM   #1
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I'm curious as to why both of them got suspended. Do they have to pay $5000 each or $5000 for the both of them?
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:51 PM   #2
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I'm curious as to why both of them got suspended. Do they have to pay $5000 each or $5000 for the both of them?
I can only assume that maybe she is listed as the car owner. In reading about it, it sounds like the total fine is $5000
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I can only assume that maybe she is listed as the car owner. In reading about it, it sounds like the total fine is $5000
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Well, if you are driving a car that someone else owns and you get selected for teardown and you refuse to teardown, you get suspended for a year. The owner doesn't get suspended also, do they?

Or if you go to teardown and get caught cheating, only the driver is suspended, right?
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The owner is not suspended.
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The owner is not suspended.
So if you drive a car that someone else owns and something about it is illegal and it gets found, the owner gets a free pass but the driver gets penalized? To be honest, that sounds backwards to what it should be. What if the driver had no idea something is wrong. There are a lot of people, me included, that drive a car that's owned by someone else. I know that the vast majority have no idea if the cars they are driving is completely legal.
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That's the way I've always heard it was done. It's the driver's responsibility to make sure the car is legal. Of course, you can't check everything, but that's the risk you take for driving someone else's car.

I can see where the pros are a different story though. The driver, owner and crew chief are well defined unlike the sportsman classes. NHRA does things similar to the way NASCAR does it.

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Old 05-17-2013, 09:14 PM   #7
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evan you missed my point. my point is that if a 20 year stock seat belt half the width half the thickness will hold up a car. a two year old race belt can't be bad in two years.the two year rule on seat belts should be every five years at the least.there is no way that a racing belt should go bad in two years.my good friend owns a wire rope co he has a tester.we tested a ten year old racing belt and the metal hardware broke and the belt never broke. and jeff teuton had him test it.
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Well, if you are driving a car that someone else owns and you get selected for teardown and you refuse to teardown, you get suspended for a year. The owner doesn't get suspended also, do they?

Or if you go to teardown and get caught cheating, only the driver is suspended, right?
I am not so sure, Toby. In the case of Jerry Echman, I believe that the entire team was suspended........However, obviously, that was a completely different situation.
I was DQ'd for an engine infraction and we had conversation about suspension and a fine. NHRA chose to do neither due to the minor nature of the infraction......But, they could have. My wife is the owner of our car.......no mention was made of suspending her, even though her name is on the tech card as owner.

Regarding this suspension, I believe that you all have read the NHRA report......"Counterfeit" SFI tags............nothing more or nothing less. They didn't say that they are bad people (they aren't), or anything else.
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