Just a point of interest to

[Billy Nees]

all of you Stock and SS racers and "Dime Rocketeers", go into the NHRA Engine Blueprint specs and check out all of the nice shiney new "gifts" the AMC guys got and forgot to tell us about! 1966 thru 1970 various engines. Some killer "Dime Rockets" there now!

[Daran Summerton]

Congrats to Garret on his 10.77 shot in SS/MA very impressive!

[Greg Hill]

I guess that holley carb was quite a bit better than the afb. I just looked and it's a 780 Holley. Also for the stockers there's an optional manifold (Edlebrock aluminum), and a higher lift cam. This sounds a whole lot like Ford. It's my understanding that this package was available as a dealer option only and not available from the factory. Things just get stranger and stranger.

[Mark Yacavone]

Thanks, Billy...There goes my N/Stock stick , 290 , 69 Javelin surprise!

[Ed Fernandez]

I'm commin to git cha Billy.

[Alex Denysenko]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

I guess that holley carb was quite a bit better than the afb. I just looked and it's a 780 Holley. Also for the stockers there's an optional manifold (Edlebrock aluminum), and a higher lift cam. This sounds a whole lot like Ford. It's my understanding that this package was available as a dealer option only and not available from the factory. Things just get stranger and stranger.

AMC Trans Am Group 19 parts program

[Tom keedle]

i'm keeping my mouth shut!

[Tom Goldman]

For those of you who don't know, I've worked for a former AMC dealer for over 37 years , and have worked on the owners,and my own AMX'S since '72 ,so I have a little knowledge about AMC's.
I still have all the factory parts books from '66 thru '76, including the group19 sections, which were only 4 pages....ALL group 19 parts were over the counter, dealer,or owner installed only.
The Edelbrock R4B intake is listed p/n 4488409 and had factory part numbers cast on them for both '69-'69&'70&up engines.
The group19 cam to my knowlege, and I installed quite a few of them, had .477" lift.
The group19 Holley carb,p/n 4885730 was actually a Holley 950cfm 3 bbl,list 3916.
Just imagine if that carb was approved instead of the 780 !
Also available were 4bolt main blocks, and even a 8 quart oil pan P/N 4485741.
While I'd love to see what can be done with these new parts, and I'm really glad to see the 4300 Motorcraft carb superceeded, only the surface was scratched with regards to potential without these parts.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Thanks, Billy...There goes my N/Stock stick , 290 , 69 Javelin surprise!

Sorry Buddy, you should have given me a heads up!

[Greg Hill]

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

For those of you who don't know, I've worked for a former AMC dealer for over 37 years , and have worked on the owners,and my own AMX'S since '72 ,so I have a little knowledge about AMC's.
I still have all the factory parts books from '66 thru '76, including the group19 sections, which were only 4 pages....ALL group 19 parts were over the counter, dealer,or owner installed only.
The Edelbrock R4B intake is listed p/n 4488409 and had factory part numbers cast on them for both '69-'69&'70&up engines.
The group19 cam to my knowlege, and I installed quite a few of them, had .477" lift.
The group19 Holley carb,p/n 4885730 was actually a Holley 950cfm 3 bbl,list 3916.
Just imagine if that carb was approved instead of the 780 !
Also available were 4bolt main blocks, and even a 8 quart oil pan P/N 4485741.
While I'd love to see what can be done with these new parts, and I'm really glad to see the 4300 Motorcraft carb superceeded, only the surface was scratched with regards to potential without these parts.

Tom, so I guess I should ask for all the trans am parts that were in the Chevy parts book in 1970 and 1971. It seems to me that I remember something in the rule book saying that special dealer only installed parts were not legal. I know that in 1969 the cross ram manifold with 2 holleys and the off road cam was available on the Z28 from the factory in the trunk and yet that has never been legal. Where does all this bs come from?