Fuel check question

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by Travis Miller

Fuels that lose their light end chemicals can read the same as fuels that have had extra oxygenators "added to enhance the fuel". Since the meter reading goes in the same direction for lost light end chemicals as well as for added oxygenators, when the reading gets outside the allowable parameters, the fuel fails.

Travis do you remember a single case in stock or super stock where you actually believe there were extra oxygenators added to enhance the fuel?

For what purpose - win a heads up race - capture #1 qualifier spot

It is obvious the intent of the testing and the equipment needs to be brought up to date

It seems it only causes needless heartache, grief and work - as well as expenses to the racers

Actually you are accusing a racer of cheating - if the test is accurately finding oxygenators - if it is not CHANGE the fricking test - how many years must this go on


Ron

[Signman]

Hey does anyone remember when fuel check became mandatory for stock and super stock?

[Travis Miller]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

Travis do you remember a single case in stock or super stock where you actually believe there were extra oxygenators added to enhance the fuel?

For what purpose - win a heads up race - capture #1 qualifier spot

It is obvious the intent of the testing and the equipment needs to be brought up to date

It seems it only causes needless heartache, grief and work - as well as expenses to the racers

Actually you are accusing a racer of cheating - if the test is accurately finding oxygenators - if it is not CHANGE the fricking test - how many years must this go on


Ron

The testing procedure does not need to be changed. It is working very well because a very, very high percentage of racers pass.

And yes I can remember when a racer added an oxygenator to the fuel. We still have the same test today to catch it and the test does work.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by Travis Miller

The testing procedure does not need to be changed. It is working very well because a very, very high percentage of racers pass.

And yes I can remember when a racer added an oxygenator to the fuel. We still have the same test today to catch it and the test does work.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

So typical

Enough said -- "a racer"

Why do people need to improve performance in a dial in race?

No need to change - it has been this way for years and it only screws up a small number of times every weekend

OK got it

Sorry for the "fricking"

We cured ours with C-25 - the fuel test guys recommend it and say it is more stable and always passes

I forget is that what Pro Stock uses? just kidding - at least they never have an issue


Ron

[Mike Croley]

Racing gasoline is a pretty consistent product , but there are a number of factors that will cause you to be bounced in tech .
Some of those factors are exposure to the atmosphere because of a poor fitting cap on the drum , jug , or fuel cell/fuel tank . Storing the race gas in extreme heat or cold will cause problems . Storing race gas in containers that previously held a different product , even if it was race gas will often get you bounced . Topping off the container of one brand or octane with a different brand or octane can cause problems .
The NHRA Fuel regs are simply an enforcement tool to try and keep the racing field level .
There is testing equipment that the racer can buy . In fact you can purchase the very same units NHRA uses , but they aren't cheap . And more importantly , your test results won't make any difference to the tech man , it's his equipment and his test that he goes by .
The best recommendation to avoid problems is to use fresh race gas , buy it from a reliable source , and take every precaution when you take a sample up to tech to be sure it's well sealed , and kept completely out of the sunlight .
The entire line of Renegade leaded racing fuels are on the accepted list for NHRA .

[LNorton]

I've seen Sunoco, Rocket, Torco, and C12 all mixed in one jug pass as Sunoco Purple. Never personally had a problem myself either and I 50/50 mix pump gas and 110 when bracket racing. VP, Sunoco and Torco have all passed in my car when pours on top of whatever was in the cell.

[Mike Croley]

A couple of other items to keep in mind concerning race gas . One , the color does not and can not determine whether a race gas is legal . A perfectly legal fuel can be off slightly in color due to small variations in batch production . And the color blue or purple can describe many brands and octanes . I know of a blue race gasoline that's 100 unleaded . The color is merely a guide , if the fuel you're claiming to have is supposed to be red but the sample you're submitting is blue , there's a problem . Renegade 110 is purple , Renegade 112 is blue , Renegade 114 is turquoise , Renegade 116 is red , Renegade 120 is rose .
Race gasoline kept under ideal conditions has a shelf life of approx. 1 1/2 to 2 years . Once it's been opened , about half that long . Fuel that's stored incorrectly can go off in far less time . Race gas stored in metal drums or cans lasts the longest , race gas in tanks less so , and race gas in tanks that are open to the atmosphere much less so . Plastic jugs are actually the worst way to store race gas .
And lastly , there is race gas tech and then there is race gas tech . A local track may miss a fuel sample that should be thrown out . Fuel tech at a national event rarely if ever misses one .

[Jody Lang]

Originally Posted by LNorton

I've seen Sunoco, Rocket, Torco, and C12 all mixed in one jug pass as Sunoco Purple. Never personally had a problem myself either and I 50/50 mix pump gas and 110 when bracket racing. VP, Sunoco and Torco have all passed in my car when pours on top of whatever was in the cell.

Pump gas as in unleaded gas pumped from a gas station? Seems unbelievable that anything would pass with unleaded present.

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by Jody Lang

Pump gas as in unleaded gas pumped from a gas station? Seems unbelievable that anything would pass with unleaded present.

Not pump gas but C10 unleaded passed