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Old 05-24-2012, 04:09 PM   #1
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A 9.80 index makes no sense. The supercharged CJs get to weigh almost 400 lbs less in AA/S and that's with a 10.00 index. I would think around 10.40 would be closer.

If those are the rules they decide on, I think the 427 COPOs may be hard to beat if someone gets a good motor built by Indy and they can get light enough.
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:41 PM   #2
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They won't have to worry about the V-8 Drag Paks, even if we could get to 3100 we can't touch the supercharged cars. The V-10's need more than 100lbs to have any chance but it will probably end up being a Cobra Jet shootout unless a Camaro makes it by Indy. Nothing against the Cobra Jets, they are amazing cars. The blown Camaros should give them a lot of competition though. It would be nice to have a supercharger...........

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When will the rules, weights, indexes, etc. be finalized.
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Bill after all of the Blue Oval checks clear the bank!!!!
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Bill after all of the Blue Oval checks clear the bank!!!!
well at least they had the money in the bank to cover the check so that they did'nt have to go to the goverment like your boy's did. i think your boy's went begging twice.
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well at least they had the money in the bank to cover the check so that they did'nt have to go to the goverment like your boy's did. i think your boy's went begging twice.
Now, that was relevant. LOL!
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well at least they had the money in the bank to cover the check so that they did'nt have to go to the goverment like your boy's did. i think your boy's went begging twice.
So where exactly did Ford get their money?
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So where exactly did Ford get their money?
Hate for this thread to get off track but since no one else is going to answer.

Ford borrowed $23.5 billion from a bank to restructure in 2006. They put up the Mustang(R), F150(R) and even the Ford blue oval(R) for collateral. In this restructuring event they liquidated many assests that were not a part of the core company. Getting rid of such items as Ford Field in Michigan, Shares of Mazda, Jaguar, Aston martin and consolidated some vehicles platforms. Ford has repayed the loan and has their debt ratings upgraded to investment-grade. They now have their collateral back.

Ford did go to washington not to ask for bailout money but to ask to have available a loan if it was needed in the future. There is no doubt that the auto industry was hit hard in the Econonomical downturn that took place and all were struggling.

They focused on becoming a global car company while focusing on its brand.(instead of trying to run multiple companies in different parts of the world differently). They focused intensly on safety and quality and set there sites on regaining market share and brand reconignition. (They brought back familiar names such as Taurus). They also stopped relying on economies of scale to be profatable.

This is just a small part of everything that Alan Mulally(came to Ford in 06 from boeing) and the managment team did with the company to make it into what it has become today.

And now back to the original program...
When will the rules be set in stone?
Still wondering what the difference is between the V10s?

Looking forward to seeing the showdown. I'll be there but will have just picked up the BIW the week before so I won't be racing in it unfortunately. Indy is always a great time!
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They won't have to worry about the V-8 Drag Paks, even if we could get to 3100 we can't touch the supercharged cars. The V-10's need more than 100lbs to have any chance but it will probably end up being a Cobra Jet shootout unless a Camaro makes it by Indy. Nothing against the Cobra Jets, they are amazing cars. The blown Camaros should give them a lot of competition though. It would be nice to have a supercharger...........

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