Teardowns

philip miles · 03-16-2012, 09:13 AM

I'm not too happy with NHRA now as it is, but here again, you're paying for something that you are not getting. NHRA is supposed to police the classes, and that's apart of S/SS. If you race those catagories expect to get torn down. But here again, NHRA is ignoring their responcability to the racers and the integrety of the classes. Even though I don't quailify well, I expect to be taken apart at any given race, I haven't been tapped on the shoulder since 1979. Don't think that NHRA is doing anybody any favors by not doing tear downs, just the oppisite. You pay for a membership and you pay to race, but you don't get anything that you are paying for when the tech group fails to tear down cars. There should be at least 10% of the field at evey national event being torn down. Back in the 70's and 80's almost 1/4 of the field was taken apart even if you were apart the week before. I don't like tear down just like anyother racer, but I know that it's apart of the racing I choose, that's what the real difference between bracket racing and class racing.
NHRA has rules that out rule common sense!

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

Crew Chief · 03-16-2012, 09:35 AM

Why bother with teardowns? When the techmen find something wrong they get overridden by the higher ups. Then the next year a rule change makes it legal.

philip miles · 03-16-2012, 10:22 AM

There is a problem with that way that NHRA does their work, and that is why Stock is nothing more then a modified production class on 9" tires.
Stock was supposed to be "STOCK", not some bastardized cars being called stock. As racers, we allowed NHRA to plow over the class without any reguard to how true meaning of the competition of "Stock". Allowing all the after market parts was a mistake in the very beginning which NHRA turned into a money maker for them selfs as well as an excuse not to have to do their jobs which includes measurements which are the heart beat of tear downs.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

art leong · 03-16-2012, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip miles

There is a problem with that way that NHRA does their work, and that is why Stock is nothing more then a modified production class on 9" tires.
Stock was supposed to be "STOCK", not some bastardized cars being called stock. As racers, we allowed NHRA to plow over the class without any reguard to how true meaning of the competition of "Stock". Allowing all the after market parts was a mistake in the very beginning which NHRA turned into a money maker for them selfs as well as an excuse not to have to do their jobs which includes measurements which are the heart beat of tear downs.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

Casey you can't blame NHRA for allowing the "superseded" parts for every part a crybaby racer begged them for it.
You can find fault with NHRA for not enforcing the rules.

BRETV · 03-16-2012, 10:37 AM

How can they automatically add Hp to a combination from a trigger of the AHFS with out tearing down the car to see if it was even legal or not. NOT fair to the other people running the same combo!! NHRA you really need to think about what your doing to these classes!! Maybe you already have and this is the future.

Bret Velde

Chuck Beach · 03-16-2012, 10:45 AM

I was under the impresson that running 1.20 under got you tore down automatically. I am pretty sure this is standard procedures here in D3 with Travis and his crew. But that might have been last years rule, what was I thinking?

west coast · 03-16-2012, 10:47 AM

I did not see any teardowns at Phoenix. But NHRA was watching heads up run of Wann and Sorenson a tech guy watching each car. Hopefullly there will be some teardowns in Belle Rose this weekend and both Vegas races coming up. There should be some fast runs at both of these races so everybody have your gaskets sets ready.

Jason · 03-16-2012, 11:05 AM

Are you saying the cars that went fast enough at the Gators to trigger the AHFS immediate horsepower did NOT get tore down?

X-TECH MAN · 03-16-2012, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by west coast

I did not see any teardowns at Phoenix. But NHRA was watching heads up run of Wann and Sorenson a tech guy watching each car. Hopefullly there will be some teardowns in Belle Rose this weekend and both Vegas races coming up. There should be some fast runs at both of these races so everybody have your gaskets sets ready.

The NHRA tech guys must have X-RAY VISION...........LOL

philip miles · 03-16-2012, 11:30 AM

NHRA should force a certain percentage of racers to tear down at all National events, this would bring out the true racers in the S/SS classes. That is what you are paying for with your membership and entry fee's. By NHRA not doing their job, it allows racers to slide whether their cars are legal or not. It used to be if you won the race, you had to tear down to get the purse, now it's just grab the trophy and go on your way.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

03-16-2012, 09:13 AM	#1
philip miles Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Teardowns I'm not too happy with NHRA now as it is, but here again, you're paying for something that you are not getting. NHRA is supposed to police the classes, and that's apart of S/SS. If you race those catagories expect to get torn down. But here again, NHRA is ignoring their responcability to the racers and the integrety of the classes. Even though I don't quailify well, I expect to be taken apart at any given race, I haven't been tapped on the shoulder since 1979. Don't think that NHRA is doing anybody any favors by not doing tear downs, just the oppisite. You pay for a membership and you pay to race, but you don't get anything that you are paying for when the tech group fails to tear down cars. There should be at least 10% of the field at evey national event being torn down. Back in the 70's and 80's almost 1/4 of the field was taken apart even if you were apart the week before. I don't like tear down just like anyother racer, but I know that it's apart of the racing I choose, that's what the real difference between bracket racing and class racing. NHRA has rules that out rule common sense! Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock! Last edited by philip miles; 03-16-2012 at 09:15 AM. Reason: miss spell

03-16-2012, 09:35 AM	#2
Crew Chief Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 184 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Teardowns Why bother with teardowns? When the techmen find something wrong they get overridden by the higher ups. Then the next year a rule change makes it legal.

03-16-2012, 10:22 AM	#3
philip miles Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Teardowns There is a problem with that way that NHRA does their work, and that is why Stock is nothing more then a modified production class on 9" tires. Stock was supposed to be "STOCK", not some bastardized cars being called stock. As racers, we allowed NHRA to plow over the class without any reguard to how true meaning of the competition of "Stock". Allowing all the after market parts was a mistake in the very beginning which NHRA turned into a money maker for them selfs as well as an excuse not to have to do their jobs which includes measurements which are the heart beat of tear downs. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock!

03-16-2012, 10:37 AM	#5
BRETV Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 567 Likes: 4,177 Liked 776 Times in 199 Posts	Re: Teardowns How can they automatically add Hp to a combination from a trigger of the AHFS with out tearing down the car to see if it was even legal or not. NOT fair to the other people running the same combo!! NHRA you really need to think about what your doing to these classes!! Maybe you already have and this is the future. Bret Velde

03-16-2012, 10:45 AM	#6
Chuck Beach Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delaware, Ohio Posts: 664 Likes: 12 Liked 58 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Teardowns I was under the impresson that running 1.20 under got you tore down automatically. I am pretty sure this is standard procedures here in D3 with Travis and his crew. But that might have been last years rule, what was I thinking? __________________ Chuck Beach 3340 STK

03-16-2012, 10:47 AM	#7
west coast Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rainy Washington Posts: 609 Likes: 12 Liked 223 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Teardowns I did not see any teardowns at Phoenix. But NHRA was watching heads up run of Wann and Sorenson a tech guy watching each car. Hopefullly there will be some teardowns in Belle Rose this weekend and both Vegas races coming up. There should be some fast runs at both of these races so everybody have your gaskets sets ready.

03-16-2012, 11:05 AM	#8
Jason Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 235 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Teardowns Are you saying the cars that went fast enough at the Gators to trigger the AHFS immediate horsepower did NOT get tore down?

03-16-2012, 11:30 AM	#10
philip miles Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Teardowns NHRA should force a certain percentage of racers to tear down at all National events, this would bring out the true racers in the S/SS classes. That is what you are paying for with your membership and entry fee's. By NHRA not doing their job, it allows racers to slide whether their cars are legal or not. It used to be if you won the race, you had to tear down to get the purse, now it's just grab the trophy and go on your way. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock!

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