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Old 06-20-2011, 08:18 PM   #1
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This is my pick. I would have to say it has won more than any other Olds out there..
I always loved that body style!
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:30 PM   #2
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My first thought on this was the Gunn/Biondo Olds as well. But then again, I'm NOT AS OLD AS SOME OF YOU GUYS!!!!

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:14 PM   #3
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The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.
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You are correct Carl it was SS/O because we ran SS/P back in those days...


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The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:28 AM   #5
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The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.
You are correct. I was standing in the sidelines when Farmer told the tech guy (Xakellis IIRC) that the '72 Olds now had the same hp as the '71. Buddy had kind of smarted off to Farmer and Farmer never liked a smarta$$.
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The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.
Its to bad Farmer isnt still doing the HP factoring today. I can think of a few combos that could use some HP.
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3 pages of response to the best Olds Super Stock of all time and no one has even mentioned Bob Dennis !!! Bob still has 3 Super Stock cars and I may be wrong but I think that 2 of them still have Oldsmobile engines in them. I also think that the Olds that he won Indy with a couple of years ago had a 307 Olds power plant. I dont see or talk to Bob as much as I use to but I think what I stated is accurate.
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Allen,

I was thinking of that very thing while working this morning. In fact, had we not bought the Cutlass we eventually sold to Dennis Ridgeway, we probably would have bought Randy Mans Achieva that Bob Dennis now owns. I always thought that Randy's Achieva was one of best working and nicest GT cars of the time. I know Bob was impressed with it once he started to run it.

The Achieva didn't need the mad-dog approach that Ingorsoll applied to the '72 Cutlass, but it may have been a better car. It was killer when Randy had it. I think Bob has backed off of it a bit, but I have no doubts it's still a killer car if need be.

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Ezra Beachy told me he built a 70 Olds 442 455 for Super Stock and he couldnt get it to run the index no matter what he tried. (Yes before the head porting rule). Then he put it all back together for stock class and it ran way under. Those engine with the 6 degree?? valve angle just dont like to flow with RPM like you need to make power on the top. There is a reason they were the premiere engine for tree stump puller applications. Small bore, big stroke, small heads=average horsepower, high torque not what you need in Super Stock. Pontiacs are bad enough, Buicks with their big bore smaller strokes are better.



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The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.

This car has little more history.............. this car was originally Dad's 1970 King Olds Smothers Brothers car. it was painted that year all white due to Tom and Dick getting in trouble on tv. at the end of the 1970 season the changes to a 1971 body were very minnor and Dale Smith sent dad the items to turn the car in to a '71 that is the year it was painted with the blue"fish scale" as dad calls it and ran the car in stock almost winning the division 2 championship. as 1972 rolled around the changes to the from factory included a hood change the original hood is still in his shop mint cond. as we all know NHRA rolled stock into super stock and dad ran the car as a SS/O all of '72 as for when he sold it to Buddy not sure but Dad then went to Modfied with a 67 Camaro.
So Buddy's car came right out of the Factory wars. To the tune of it helped oldsmobile win the manfactures cup in 71,72.

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