Where are the lower class cars?

[Terry Cain]

"Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before . "

I thought you still had to run at least .5 under to qualify and run eliminations?

[G Schenck]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

"Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before . "

I thought you still had to run at least .5 under to qualify and run eliminations?

No Terry, you have to at least dail your index.

Greg

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

"Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before . "

I thought you still had to run at least .5 under to qualify and run eliminations?

The .5 was class single runs.After the .3 hit that disappeared then class singles disappeared.

[Daran Summerton]

Then contingency disappeared , then the cars disappeared. At least we still have Belle Rose.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Daran Summerton

Then contingency disappeared , then the cars disappeared. At least we still have Belle Rose.

Agreed Daran, I just wish I lived closer, but after enjoying my first Nitro Jam/IHRA racing experience, being closer to there might have to be in the works???

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

"Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before . "

I thought you still had to run at least .5 under to qualify and run eliminations?

Terry, I don't know if anyone else has chimed in on your question, but no you don't need to run .5 under to qualify & run eliminations. However, you did need to run .5 or more under your index to earn a class win...that is prior to this years enhancement for singles to have to race other singles (based on tranny types), in both Stock and Super Stock. In that case it's most likely the swiftest of the singles that'll win (reaction times being equal)! Sorry but class pays my car $100 bucks or maybe less now, so it's hardly worth it for me anymore, because nearly all of the contingency postings I enjoyed for class back in '99 are gone now, so it's pointless to me to care about class eliminations...the only good I see is that it's a pre-race experience to prepare me for regular racing conditions the next day!

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Terry, I don't know if anyone else has chimed in on your question, but no you don't need to run .5 under to qualify & run eliminations. However, you did need to run .5 or more under your index to earn a class win...that is prior to this years enhancement for singles to have to race other singles (based on tranny types), in both Stock and Super Stock. In that case it's most likely the swiftest of the singles that'll win (reaction times being equal)! Sorry but class pays my car $100 bucks or maybe less now, so it's hardly worth it for me anymore, because nearly all of the contingency postings I enjoyed for class back in '99 are gone now, so it's pointless to me to care about class eliminations...the only good I see is that it's a pre-race experience to prepare me for regular racing conditions the next day!

If class wins are not important to you why do you race in a performanced based class? Wouldn't it be better not to have to worry about how far under you can run and all the work and money it takes to get faster within the rules and just stay with bracket racing? Why put yourself through it?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

If class wins are not important to you why do you race in a performanced based class? Wouldn't it be better not to have to worry about how far under you can run and all the work and money it takes to get faster within the rules and just stay with bracket racing? Why put yourself through it?

Harry, it seems that a lot of us have taken that "Option B " lately.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

If class wins are not important to you why do you race in a performanced based class? Wouldn't it be better not to have to worry about how far under you can run and all the work and money it takes to get faster within the rules and just stay with bracket racing? Why put yourself through it?

Good question Harry, but I have some good answers to/for you:

1. The only other alternative for a car that runs in the 15-16sec. zone is the sportsman bracket class, and only at the divisional finals does the pay out seem worthwhile...many tracks in Colorado, and even the ones here in Az., would pay $250 or less to the winner of that class as opposed to racing for over $1k in a national/divisional/stock or super stock combo race....just like chum in the ocean attracts sharks, money (and the chance at it plus the fame that goes with it), attracts me!

2. The prestige of racing in front of large groups of people is something else I enjoy, because the stage is a lot bigger than in bracket racing, and after most of the past 36yrs of my being in this sport, that's what I want....

3. I wish to do something no one has done since Mark back in '86, and the guy in '85 divisionally...win a national event, and then set my sights on being the first to repeat that feat, with a front wheel drive car. I like the challenge of doing something that no one has yet done this century, nor has anyone else done since Mark's awesome feat!

Yes if I wanted to I could scrap the fuel injection system, and have my engine built to use a carburetor (Holley), and make the car run 13's (so I could run Pro ET), but to only race for sportsmans meager payouts, and w/o the glamour of running in front of larger groups of fans is something I don't wish to do anymore (exceptions being at Nitro Jam races, where those bracket racers get to race for larger payouts, and in front of lots of fans)! Don't get me wrong Harry, I would like racing for class (for the nearly real racing conditions), however class doesn't pay any money anymore (for products I'm able to use), to give me reason to give a hoot about it...bring back the contingencies of '99, and I'd be more excited about it (oh and return the class runnoffs to how they were prior to this year)!

[Frito]

I did notice Randall Campball at Bristol made it down to the semi finals in his N/SA, he was dialed at 14.05. So much for the lower class cars, or trucks, being a disavantage. The 4 second spot against Keith Lynch was interesting to watch and had a lot of folks in the stands on their feet watching the finish line.