2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock

[Greg Hill]

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

GM finally gets knocked off of it's riding high in the saddle and preferential treatment and all of a sudden the sky is falling. The Bowtie gang, and the Fire Chicken supporters closed their ears when criticism was directed towards the NHRA over the bogus HP factors given to the LT1's and the combined GM's EFI combo's with Stock. This can of worms wasn't just recently opened with the Ford Mod Motors, or the Cobra Jet cars.

I look at it this way, GM took the bailout money after all those years of giving away millions of dollars, and they are still in the ***** house financially.

Ford chose not to take a dime of Oblama's money, and is now stronger than ever financially; and with Brian Wolfe again involved with Ford Racing, Ford is now back in Pro Stock, Nitro F/C, Super Stock/ Stock, and other sportsman classes.

For those who are making this a Ford/GM argument, Isn't this really what this is REALLY about ??? GM has taken a big ***** and it just digs in your krawl !!!I Guess you all could reach out to Oblama and have him get Eric Holder or one of his cronies involved from the Justice Department, and have them run the NHRA as well

You're missing the point. It's not about brand loyalty, it's about bogus horsepower ratings. Ask my good friend Verne Buchannon how he likes having to run the 5.9 Challengers heads up. For those of you who don't know Verne runs a 73 Mustang. My daily driver is a 2009 Ford Flex and I love it. I race a 71 Camaro. The guys that race GM cars would be just as pissed if the new Camaros were racing with these bogus factors. These new cars came out with hp ratings as much as 100hp too light and you think people who have been racing their cars for 20 plus years and working on their combinations shouldn't be complaining. Bull****. Ask the moderator, who is a big Ford man, how he feels about this now that he has had a chance to see what they're capable of.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

The Bowtie gang, and the Fire Chicken supporters closed their ears when criticism was directed towards the NHRA over the bogus HP factors given to the LT1's

The 275 HP for my Firebird was dead honest. The problem is that the HP numbers in the book are factors not HP numbers.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by GUMP

The 275 HP for my Firebird was dead honest. The problem is that the HP numbers in the book are factors not HP numbers.

The cylinder head work they can hide in the aluminium LT1 heads is a big factor there. Hang one out of the GM crate, or out of a car, on an engine dyno, they won't make anywhere near their stock hp factor. Thatr's the big reason the S & SS factors are so different. The SS heads aren't all that much better than a good set of Stock Eliminator heads. Put a set of actual stock castings on a good running LT1 Stocker and see how fast it is now.

[BlueOval Ralph]

Every body is bitichn about the Ported Ford Heads for Stock on this 5.0 235 hp combo! Does anybody understand it has been legal for the Chevys, if anybody choses to run the Z06 427 it has been in Comp Guide since 2006 Not sure if NHRA even knows that the heads are CNC Ported from the Factory!!!!!! BTW with Titanium Rods and Intake Valves