A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp

[Charley Downing]

Yes Danny race IHRA where everyone gets there own class and heads ups are a thing of the past.

Chad you can't tell me that the mustang 281ci combo is any better then Wade Owens 283ci combo. Hell wade is going 11.50s in K/SA. do you really think a 281ci ford is going to out run Wade's 283. Which is 15hp less then the new 281ci ford
Are you a f'in retarded?

Hats off to Wade that 283 just flat runs.

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Yes Danny race IHRA where everyone gets there own class and heads ups are a thing of the past.

Chad you can't tell me that the mustang 281ci combo is any better then Wade Owens 283ci combo. Hell wade is going 11.50s in K/SA. do you really think a 281ci ford is going to out run Wade's 283. Which is 15hp less then the new 281ci ford
Are you a f'in retarded?

Hats off to Wade that 283 just flat runs.

To each his own...... We have plenty of heads - up racing in IHRA..... Even in the F I classes. Did not know everybody had their own class in IHRA....???????? "Somebody is allways going to be faster"

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Yes Danny race IHRA where everyone gets there own class and heads ups are a thing of the past.

As much as I love the IHRA I have to agree that the fuel injected classes are bad for Stock Eliminator.

Chad you can't tell me that the mustang 281ci combo is any better then Wade Owens 283ci combo. Hell wade is going 11.50s in K/SA. do you really think a 281ci ford is going to out run Wade's 283. Which is 15hp less then the new 281ci ford

I think that you will be surprised at what the Modular will put out.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by GUMP

As much as I love the IHRA I have to agree that the fuel injected classes are bad for Stock Eliminator.




I think that you will be surprised at what the Modular will put out.

As long as NHRA and IHRA dont do SOMETHING about the bogus HP ratings then keeping them seperate from the old cars is a good thing. When the racing ASSociations get their act together on this joke THEN drop the FI classes and run them together. All you guys with the new cars want is more heads up runs against the older combos so you can have a free ride into the next round or a class (?) win.

[JRyan]

Charlie.
The 140hp 307 Olds is rated 240 hp. The 85 flat top 305 in a Camaro is rated 262, an 82 dish piston Camaro is 244 and the Malibu 230. Wades 283 is rated 217hp and the 138hp roller Olds is 213hp.
Both of the engines rated less then the 281 have far less compression and the 283 has a .399 lift cam. The roller 307 has a horrible intake and head design.
So @ 235 it may not be greatly underfactored but it should be a lot better then the dished piston 305 or 140hp Olds for certain.

Rick Ryan

[Charley Downing]

The 240hp olds 307 is a very bad combo. I was looking more at the 213hp olds 307 with a 400 plus lift cam and a 800 carb.

[JRyan]

You're right big carb, good cam. But again an absolute horrible intake and bad heads in stock form. Actually the heads aren't even that good in super stock form. They're hardly good enough to make up the hp difference in super stock. Some have been run with some success.
We built one for a good friend of ours. It's far from trick and it will run the index and a touch better. However with all the good stuff it will still never set the world on fire. It's probably capable of .70 under around here in our great air we have. I personally still wouldn't say it's any better of a combo then the 140hp though.
I would love too build one of these new Mustangs however. I think it'll make a good car.

[keith ohanesian]

It has a 65 mm throttle body!CNC'd 3 valve head! That thing should start at 260!
I don't care let those thing run with us.. I grew up watching Dale Sr. race and learned how to put someone into the wall.

Originally Posted by JRyan

Charlie.
The 140hp 307 Olds is rated 240 hp. The 85 flat top 305 in a Camaro is rated 262, an 82 dish piston Camaro is 244 and the Malibu 230. Wades 283 is rated 217hp and the 138hp roller Olds is 213hp.
Both of the engines rated less then the 281 have far less compression and the 283 has a .399 lift cam. The roller 307 has a horrible intake and head design.
So @ 235 it may not be greatly underfactored but it should be a lot better then the dished piston 305 or 140hp Olds for certain.

Rick Ryan

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

As long as NHRA and IHRA dont do SOMETHING about the bogus HP ratings then keeping them seperate from the old cars is a good thing. When the racing ASSociations get their act together on this joke THEN drop the FI classes and run them together.

If the IHRA would stick to the NHRA factors they wouldn't need the fuel injected classes. That is of course, except for the 2008+ factory cars.

All you guys with the new cars want is more heads up runs against the older combos so you can have a free ride into the next round or a class (?) win.

That is a dumb thing to say.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by GUMP

If the IHRA would stick to the NHRA factors they wouldn't need the fuel injected classes. That is of course, except for the 2008+ factory cars.

I agree that IHRA should follow the NHRA HP factors. Like you said even if they did the 2008+ cars will have a major advantage over the older cars. Its the number one reason to keep them seperate until the HP factors catch up to reason.


That is a dumb thing to say.

Its a matter of opinion.....why else would people spend truck loads of money to build a new DP or Mustang if they were not looking to have a major advantage over the other cars in their class of choice for heads up runs and class wins? Just to hold a record or have bragging rights to say Im the baddest? Pretty expensive way to say Im faster than you are if you ask me. Some must have money to just throw away in todays economy or its the advantage they are looking for and want over their competition and are willing to spend anything for it.