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Old 09-18-2010, 12:07 PM   #1
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Kinda like guys asking NHRA to make center counterweights legal. I didnt do that one. Or guys protesting me for 48 degree lifters when they were the ones that started it. I dont complain about other people, I just figure out how to make them wish I hadnt showed up. Any reputable person that builds engines will tell you that Ti valves will be cheaper in the long run. Unless they are trying to protect the "club Hornick" payed high rpm engine that they pass around.
I am killing the class, Thats a good one. I am giving people an option to run against the pennsylvania millionares club. I dont have a club, I sell the same stuff to everyone, and last year we beat your best stuff with Rains backup engine.
Sorry for your sad face, my day is going pretty well so far. Maybe the sun will shine on you.
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Old 09-18-2010, 02:02 PM   #2
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Kinda like guys asking NHRA to make center counterweights legal. I didnt do that one. Or guys protesting me for 48 degree lifters when they were the ones that started it. I dont complain about other people, I just figure out how to make them wish I hadnt showed up. Any reputable person that builds engines will tell you that Ti valves will be cheaper in the long run. Unless they are trying to protect the "club Hornick" payed high rpm engine that they pass around.
I am killing the class, Thats a good one. I am giving people an option to run against the pennsylvania millionares club. I dont have a club, I sell the same stuff to everyone, and last year we beat your best stuff with Rains backup engine.
Sorry for your sad face, my day is going pretty well so far. Maybe the sun will shine on you.
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You must feel awfully guilty about this whole deal because nobody ever commented about you saying anything. You jumped right in.

I never asked NHRA to add center counterweights. Would it help? Absolutely, but I wouldn't want it if it meant it would protect the rules of the class.

Did we have 48 degree lifters in the past? Yes. But we were told it wasn't legal so we stopped. Did you stop, no, you just complained to NHRA.

2 years ago at the Maple Grove National 2 weeks before Indy we asked NHRA once again, "Are you allowed to change the lifter angles?", and they replied, "Absolutley not". We asked, "Would you check it at Indy in 2 weeks", and NHRA replied "Yes, if we had the right tools". We didn't protest you, we attempted to and NHRA wouldn't let us. First they said they didn't have the tools. When we told them we had the tools they said, "Well, we're not going to check it anyway". And guess what, the following Tuesday there was a rule change to accommodate Charlie Westcott, once again.

I never said that changing to Ti valves wouldn't be cheaper in the long run. How many times do I have to say the same thing, keep the rules the way they are, you are killing the originality of the class. I'm not talking about the cost of the parts or the time before your motor breaks. I'm talking about keeping Super Stock the way it is. Can't you understand this at all? Are you that dense?

I don't think sacrificing 2 engines to beat me is anything to brag about. You and your Dad are lucky my carbs decided to bog in the final. Congrats on your win. What happened this year? Oh yeah, 2 more bit the dust. What rule change are you planning for now?

Why didn't you borrow Rains' motor this year? Because he doesn't have the same power you have or because he was slow?

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Old 09-18-2010, 02:18 PM   #3
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It looks to me that NHRA doesn't have the technical skills to police their rules anymore. The racers got more sophicated that the sanctioning body. I guess that is why they opened up porting and chamber mods because the cheaters (not picking out anyone here) were smarter than the tech guys. Back to the porch for me.
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Old 09-18-2010, 02:52 PM   #4
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OUCH! This is getting good even though most of us in the know knew what was going on already with the Hemis. . These SS/AH cars are out of hand and NOTHING like they should be. I think the AH part stands for something else.....LOL.

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Old 09-18-2010, 05:23 PM   #5
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There is no question this statement. NHRA need's a house cleaning and they need VERY GOOD tech people FULL TIME and the same ones at every race.




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Old 09-19-2010, 01:25 AM   #6
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There is no question this statement. NHRA need's a house cleaning and they need VERY GOOD tech people FULL TIME and the same ones at every race.
D4 has a very good one in Wesley Roberson. He know's exactly what he's looking at!!!!
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:39 AM   #7
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No doubt about Wesley, but Danny and Bruce won't or don't listen to him. As I have heard he won't go to a meet that Danny is at. NOTE I said as I have heard.


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Old 09-19-2010, 11:17 AM   #8
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No doubt about Wesley, but Danny and Bruce won't or don't listen to him. As I have heard he won't go to a meet that Danny is at. NOTE I said as I have heard.
It truly is a shame that this is what it has come down to. Everybody seems to know where the problems are but when does it all get rectified. To all the men in tech who take pride in their work---Thank you !
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D4 has a very good one in Wesley Roberson. He know's exactly what he's looking at!!!!
But he no longer works National Events !
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But he no longer works National Events !
You know why that is right?
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