Congrats to Charles Blossom

[bill dedman]

And, shame on me for calling Mr. Blossom's PT Cruiser a Neon... I THINK the Neon's SRT turbo engine is a more powerful version of the OHC Mopar 4-cylinder than what goes (went?) into the PT Cruiser.

Sorry for any confusion....

[art leong]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

And, shame on me for calling Mr. Blossom's PT Cruiser a Neon... I THINK the Neon's SRT turbo engine is a more powerful version of the OHC Mopar 4-cylinder than what goes (went?) into the PT Cruiser.

Sorry for any confusion....

Different intake manifold

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by art leong

Wrong They made them in 2004 All convertibles were turbocharged

Wrong,

Just like all Cruiser's you could get them with or without the turbo. The confusion is that ALL the GT models came with a 220hp turbo motor but you could all Cruiser's with the FI 2.4, 2.4 turbo/180hp or the 2.4 turbo /220hp (gt version) and the SRT Neon was 230hp, I believe.

I was told that all the turbo motors were the same but with different computer parameters.

Girlfriend has a convertible with standard engine and I have the 180hp turbo 4 door. love it by the way!

JimR

[Owen S Quirion]

Jim, I looked at the blueprint specs and the two engines are identical from a parts standpoint. If the only difference is the computer and NHRA allows any computer anyway, then the two engines should have the same factored HP. Pretty favorable combo here.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Bill -

It's not so much that Charles Blossom is a super engine builder as it is that he uncovered a combination that is woefully misfactored. It's the same as the performance level of the new factory race cars. The people who own them are not the sole secret to their performance; it's the inaccuracy of the power factors assigned that make their performance level so far outside the normal range of the classes they participate in. Charles's little display here points to the chink in the covering and gives rise to imaginations of many similar jewels in the classification guides to be exploited. Hopefully, NHRA or somebody can get outside the AFHS to correct some of these combinations that make a mockery of the illusion of head-to-head competition.

Dwight -- Mockery ?? Maybe but i'm OK with it -- he found it and I didn't -- wish I did -- it was there for anyone to find and run and he had big enough kahoonas to spend his money and build it .Good for him ! !

Billy -- Amen ? You've spent your entire racing career looking for a combo this good .......

Mike / Randall -- D/FS -- i'll bet he gets a lot of heads-ups

Ed -- Rumor has it he's building a Nitro R/T for T/SA ...............

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Dwight -- Mockery ?? Maybe but i'm OK with it -- he found it and I didn't -- wish I did -- it was there for anyone to find and run and he had big enough kahoonas to spend his money and build it .Good for him ! !

Billy -- Amen ? You've spent your entire racing career looking for a combo this good .......

Mike / Randall -- D/FS -- i'll bet he gets a lot of heads-ups

Ed -- Rumor has it he's building a Nitro R/T for T/SA ...............

Jack. Billy knew all about it, trust me.

[Ed Fernandez]

Still doesn't make it right that the Blind Mice in Glendora let runaway combos like this keep making a sham of "their" AHFS.
Remember when you're GTO was the hot lick in E?I guess the DP's took care of that.
And I hold no ill will towards Charlie Blossom,or Bob Shaw,they used what was there in black and white.

[bill dedman]

Is there a full moon? For once, Ed and I are in total agreement on this one...

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Still doesn't make it right that the Blind Mice in Glendora let runaway combos like this keep making a sham of "their" AHFS.
Remember when you're GTO was the hot lick in E?I guess the DP's took care of that.

Yes Ed its a sham -- but should he have had horsepower put on before he raced it ?And yes again - my GTO was the hot lick in E -- we all get our 15 minutes -- well maybe not all of us -- have you had yours ?

Dwight -- Justice ? Yes I raced under and worked for "Farmer" and i'll take the AFHS any day before I do that again . That dartboard stuff that was talked about did have some truth to it ............very little but ............

[Mike Schwartz]

Just lost in 2nd round. 8-inch MOV!

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
5508 Charles Blossom 392 J. T. Shouse
E2 0.112 13.733 98.95 ****WINNER**** 0.109 10.512 116.90
DF/S Dial: 13.71 (+/-): 0.023 C/S Dial: 10.49 (+/-): 0.022
Prior rounds:
E1 (J Holzman ) 0.067 13.846 0.096 (J Beattie J) 0.078 10.465 -0.095
Qualified: #1 13.774 -1.826 #97 10.543 -0.807

Ah, the beauty of stock. We're looking at a PT Cruiser convertible going up against a late model Corvette.

Cubic inches wins this one over manifold pressure. J. T. Shouse's MOV: 0.0047 seconds (approximately 8 inches).