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Old 07-15-2010, 05:48 PM   #1
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Unhappy Re: "7" Plymouth's You Just Had to Have.

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I know what you mean....I have a 70 383 4-speed Road Runner.
It's sad that everyone goes apeshyt over the '71 Hemicuda convertible because there are only 11 accounted for.

There are only 3 '70 Hemi Roadrunner convertibles accounted for, they are a much nicer looking car, but very few people care.

B bodies don't get no love.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:07 PM   #2
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I would agree.
I think the 71' Hemi Cuda convertible has "Jumped the Shark".
If you owned one, could you really drive it?

An interesting B-Body, which I liked.
1969 Sport Satellite, convertible, 383/330HP 4-speed.
Up-grade interior w/bucket seats and console.
Silver-gray with black top and Magnum wheels.
You could sneak them in G/Stock in 1969.
A nice Sunday cruiser, with the wife and kids,.or with Giada Delaurentis
"Everyday Italian"
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:43 PM   #3
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A while back, I had a 70 Coronet 500 conv with factory 383 HP and 4 speed, 391 8 3/4 rear. Normally a guy would get either an R/T, or a regular conv with 318 or lopo 383.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:07 PM   #4
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It's sad that everyone goes apeshyt over the '71 Hemicuda convertible because there are only 11 accounted for.

There are only 3 '70 Hemi Roadrunner convertibles accounted for, they are a much nicer looking car, but very few people care.

B bodies don't get no love.
Your right. My friend Kelly bought the '71 HEMI 4-speed 'Cuda convertible from John Oliverio in 1987, at the height of that muscle car era in terms of value.
Kelly brought it to the families Plymouth dealership in the cover of darkness and hid the car from view in a far corner.
Kelly started getting calls about his ownership of the car which he denied and told everybody a joke was being played on them.
You see, they were so valuable then that Kelly was worried the car would get stolen and placed on a shipping container to Japan or some other port, never to be seen again.
It was such a "joy" to own, he sold it. Of course he made a profit. But the point is he didn't even want to acknowledge ownership, much less drive the car.
And of course he should have kept it. Ultimately, the car changed hands a few times and sold at the height of the second wave of muscle car blue chip transactions, for several million dollars. In fact, it ended up back in Arizona less than 2 miles from my house owned by a big time HEMI E-Body collector (forgot his name) who actually drove the car. In fact he let Kelly drive it from Phoenix to Las Vegas for the Mopars @ The Strip venue. In fact, the car was driven more than once across the state. So at least it got to strut its stuff (finally!).
I know this last guy sold it as he was trading "up" that niche market. One day he pulled the plug and all those cars lost value as fast as a house of cards...which is all that market was to begin with.
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Old 07-16-2010, 06:59 AM   #5
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Jeff,
The collector in Az. who owned the '71HemiCuda conv was "Wild" Bill Weiman, a nice, down to earth guy who drove his high dollar cars a lot. I wound up getting a '71 340 4 spd Curious yellow shaker Cuda conv from him. He had pulled the factory 391 gears and installed real tall highway gears for desert cruising. Bad combo with a 4 spd. Living in New England, I changed back to 391s.
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R/T,
I think there is some info posted on the results of (3) 340 Dusters, as tested, all stock, with 4-speed transmissions, and E-70" x 14" GoodYears Disc brakes and power steering.
w/3.23 gears; 14.37
w/3.55 gears; 14.24
w/3.91 gears; 14.09
That sounds about right.

On the 1967 Barracuda 383/280HP car It was available with a 4-speed and/or automatic.
Weight #3202 lbs.
Big problem, super restrictive exhaust. The only gear ratio available was the 3.23.
Car lumbered a little. The 4-speed stick car could run around 15.20's @ 94 mph.
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Pesce'
Wrong thread.
But here it is.
340/275HP hydraulic camshaft .430/.444 lift w/ 268/276 duration

The 1968 340/275HP 4-speed camshaft;
.444/.453 lift w/276/284 duration

1970 340/290HP 6-barrel camshaft
.430/.444 lift w/268/276 duration
T/A heads with off-set push rod holes, and off-set adjustable rockers.

If they went through with the 340/305HP 6-barrel Ram-Air for 1971, it would have had a .484/.484 lift w/284 duration. solid lifter camshaft.

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Did any of the '71 'Cuda's actually sell for over a million? There was a pretty big story on one of the Mopar boards a couple years ago about that being nothing more than collusion between the '71 owners trying to keep the prices inflated.
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Default Re: "7" Plymouth's You Just Had to Have.

That is what was happening. How much was really traded is privy to those involved. That kind of stuff has also allegedly occurred at the big auction houses. To me, that's manipulation of trade and should be investigated by the DOJ or Atty General at the least.
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