64 Plymouth GT/EA in Ennis

[Mopar Steve]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I might step on some toes here but it could be the "East Coast" and "West Coast" rule book deal.....LOL. If its a clone (or real) of a steel Hemi car then the front fenders and hood must be STEEL and have a hinged hood with an alum. scoop. If its a MAX Wedge body (clone or real) it should have a hinged alum hood, scoop and fenders. Max Wedge STEEL cars never had a hood scoop. The only lift off hoods in 1964 were the 330 2 door sedans and 2 door sedan Savoys but Im not saying all of the 2 door Hemi sedans had lift off hoods. As John Lang said some most likly came (Late Build date) with hinged hoods. One more car......several years ago Dave Wren and Mopar somehow got a 2 door hardtop Belvedere with an Alum front end legal and in the class guide using a race Hemi to drop into a lower class and it was runner up at Indy a long time ago. If this is the combo in question then the hood should still be hinged. Mother MOPAR made some wierd stuff when it suited them or NHRA rules dictated it. Maybe Carrol Shelby wrote a letter.....LOL. and the games continue.

Dave Wren's car was a steel nose Hardtop built for SS/DA in 1969. I spoke with Dave Koffel (who built the car for Wren) in detail about this car. Wren broke in the finals and Ron Mancini was given the Runner Up finish at the Nationals that year with his SS/DA steel nose Hemi '64 Dodge.

For what it's worth, I own the Mancini Dodge. I have researched the 4 steel nose Hemi's that were built for SS/CA and SS/DA in 1969 and can confirm the above as fact.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Mopar Steve

Dave Wren's car was a steel nose Hardtop built for SS/DA in 1969. I spoke with Dave Koffel (who built the car for Wren) in detail about this car. Wren broke in the finals and Ron Mancini was given the Runner Up finish at the Nationals that year with his SS/DA steel nose Hemi '64 Dodge.

For what it's worth, I own the Mancini Dodge. I have researched the 4 steel nose Hemi's that were built for SS/CA and SS/DA in 1969 and can confirm the above as fact.

Thanks for helping out with that info....I wasnt sure if Daves car was a steel car or an alum piece. Its been a long time ago but I now remember his car being a Red Fury or Sport Fury????? instead of a Belvedere. Is this correct? I remember him breaking a drive shaft in the final There are some alum nosed Hemi Belvederes out there running today as listed in the NHRA Guide but I dont believe they were factory assembly line built???. Can you give us any input about the hood pin debate for the 64 2 door sedan lite wts?

[Mopar Steve]

I believe it was a Fury. I'm currently away from all of my documents and etc., but will be able to help tomorrow evening when I have that all at my access again. From what I can recall though, I think they were hinged.

There were assembly line built Hemi hardtops. What sheet metal they had, I cannot recall.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Mopar Steve

I believe it was a Fury. I'm currently away from all of my documents and etc., but will be able to help tomorrow evening when I have that all at my access again. From what I can recall though, I think they were hinged.

There were assembly line built Hemi hardtops. What sheet metal they had, I cannot recall.

I have many pictures of Hayden Proffit, Color Me Gone, Dan "Smoker" Smith, etc., and wished I could scan them on here but I dont have a scanner. They all show 4 hood pins sticking up thru the hoods, were 2 door sedans and have S/SA on the windshields in shoe polish. Some show them in the pits with the hood on the roof. Its possable that some came this way and some didnt. Maybe NHRA made a rule change back in 1964? Who knows and its not a big deal. Just all I have shows them with hood pins. Thanks again.

[Todd Boyer]

So the upshot of all this is that these cars never came with fiberglass hoods from Chrysler???

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by todd boyer

so the upshot of all this is that these cars never came with fiberglass hoods from chrysler???

nope !