1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower?

X-TECH MAN · 09-02-2009, 10:19 AM

[QUOTE=mannymen; NHRA's thinking is that we are a hassle with all of this AFHS crap, TEARDOWN costs and complaining. Squeaky wheels will eventually be replaced.

NHRA can save themselves time and some money by cutting costs at the scales, fuel check and in the teardown barn.

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Yep.....Its coming even if you dont think so right now. The modified guys didnt think they would be replaced with S/G and S/C years ago either. After qualifying is over in T/S and T/D they dont even need to fuel check or weigh the high dollar bracket cars any more. Its just a dial in bracket race after that.

Bobby DiDomenico · 09-02-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Yep.....Its coming even if you dont think so right now. After qualifying is over in T/S and T/D they dont even need to fuel check or weigh the high dollar bracket cars any more. Its just a dial in bracket race after that.

Terry,

Don't give them any ideas or they will begin making you file a protest fee to weigh a competitiors car!

Sadly, you may be correct on the cost issue but I gotta tell you, after watching some of the faster .90 cars coast until the 330' clocks at Joliet (about right where the spectator stands end for the most part) I'd see them just having the T/S and T/D cars. The fans didn't even see those .90 cars under power!!

Could they just run Stock eliminator the same way as T/S & T/D? All run, and all dial in. Only having tech at "class eliminator races"? You could start a new career as a tech man...

chevy620 · 09-02-2009, 10:39 AM

Have Class Elims at one ot two Nationals per division.
At other events make it a dial-in race, like it is now... BUT... eliminate the heads-up races during eliminations. I think more guys would run Stock and S/Stock if they didn't have to deal with being killed in a head-up run with a guy who can slaughter the index but doesn;t have to drive that round.
Probably not a popular response on this site, but we need to do something before the Classes no longer exist.

Now is the time to get some fresh ideas out there. Monitoring every car, every pass is not going to continue in my opinion, this is just one of many options to consider.

Bobby DiDomenico · 09-02-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chevy620

Have Class Elims at one ot two Nationals per division.
At other events make it a dial-in race, like it is now... BUT... eliminate the heads-up races during eliminations. I think more guys would run Stock and S/Stock if they didn't have to deal with being killed in a head-up run with a guy who can slaughter the index but doesn;t have to drive that round.
Probably not a popular response on this site, but we need to do something before the Classes no longer exist.

Now is the time to get some fresh ideas out there. Monitoring every car, every pass is not going to continue in my opinion, this is just one of many options to consider.

You are correct, it won't be a popular post, but ending "heads up" runs during the eliminator may be the only way to keep the classes around. As it is now, the exotic items that have crept in have made some folks drop out, and it is clear that the faster cars have a big advantage or there wouldn't be so many recently built.

Around my house there used to be more 442's than Oldsmobile built, but now it is the 396/427 Camaro at NHRA races which vastly out pace production. Alas, the lowly forgotten Vega...

mannymen · 09-02-2009, 11:15 AM

As I also mentioned about a month ago. NHRA tends to follow what the IHRA does in regards to eliminating heads up runs at races and for new classes. IHRA = Steve Jobs and the NHRA = Bill Gates

Bob Bender · 09-02-2009, 11:48 AM

Hey ED, we need to take our slow cars and go home...........

RON TAYLOR · 09-02-2009, 12:06 PM

They need shove the ahfs !!!

Ed Fernandez · 09-02-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Bender

Hey ED, we need to take our slow cars and go home...........

Two Sports Nat's in each div.We already have the Dutch.Add one at Atco.F$%@ National Events.
Bob,you could use the wagon for car service.Just park in any mall.

Ed Wright · 09-03-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Bender

Hey ED, we need to take our slow cars and go home...........

I didn't say slow, I said slower. We are pretty much all slower than someone else. In SS, That would include all but Caro, our (Div 4) prenial #1 guy.

X-TECH MAN · 09-02-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

Terry,
You could start a new career as a tech man...

LOL.....Nope, never, nadda, not gonna happen....lots of better things to do. I ALMOST screwed up and started a sportsman association with Alex but after all of the complaining I see on here I figured it wasnt worth the grief. Besides with the economy they way it is I dont think its a good idea right now.

09-02-2009, 10:39 AM	#3
chevy620 Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 188 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? Have Class Elims at one ot two Nationals per division. At other events make it a dial-in race, like it is now... BUT... eliminate the heads-up races during eliminations. I think more guys would run Stock and S/Stock if they didn't have to deal with being killed in a head-up run with a guy who can slaughter the index but doesn;t have to drive that round. Probably not a popular response on this site, but we need to do something before the Classes no longer exist. Now is the time to get some fresh ideas out there. Monitoring every car, every pass is not going to continue in my opinion, this is just one of many options to consider.

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mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? As I also mentioned about a month ago. NHRA tends to follow what the IHRA does in regards to eliminating heads up runs at races and for new classes. IHRA = Steve Jobs and the NHRA = Bill Gates __________________ N/A

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09-02-2009, 10:19 AM	#1
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? [QUOTE=mannymen; NHRA's thinking is that we are a hassle with all of this AFHS crap, TEARDOWN costs and complaining. Squeaky wheels will eventually be replaced. NHRA can save themselves time and some money by cutting costs at the scales, fuel check and in the teardown barn. [/QUOTE] Yep.....Its coming even if you dont think so right now. The modified guys didnt think they would be replaced with S/G and S/C years ago either. After qualifying is over in T/S and T/D they dont even need to fuel check or weigh the high dollar bracket cars any more. Its just a dial in bracket race after that.