nhra increase fees explained

[junior barns]

..Brandon Peterson said


"..everyone is getting the b/s from owners and mangers weither it is NHRA or your job...we are getting crapped on "

I understand your frustration but my ? to you is

Do you still have a job??


As for NHRA I have NO sympathy!!!

[Brandon Peterson]

Originally Posted by junior barns

..Brandon Peterson said


"..everyone is getting the b/s from owners and mangers weither it is NHRA or your job...we are getting crapped on "

I understand your frustration but my ? to you is

Do you still have a job??


As for NHRA I have NO sympathy!!!

depends on what happens to chrysler but as of now yes i do.....but if you were here and saw how they spend their money espically upgrads on a freakin parking lot that had nothing wrong with it....then they trun right around after spending god knows what on that and say they are broke....to me its all b/s any way you look at it NHRA or whatever...but yes i havea job and im very thankful for it....

[Larry Munk]

Originally Posted by Casey Miles

In another thread, VMP gave out 60,000 "free" tickets so that they get spectators, I for one don't care if they show up or not. If they don't pay anything at the gate, they are not supporting the racer and it means the money is coming from else where. The racers are "bringing" in the show, NHRA and the facitlity that the race is being held could let up on the racer rather then the spectator. Yes, give the spectator a break, but to give away tickets and have the racers pull their full load is not reasonable. I'm sure that NHRA has this all figured out that the racers will take on all the expences because the racers have the big investments in their rigs and race cars. Food for thought or just pissing in the wind!

Casey Miles
248H

Casey, It was a good deal for the fans and not a bad deal if you are a local and your Better Half could only make it on Free Pass Day so thanks to Raymond Skipper for coming up with a pass. And by the way VMP did make money for the prefered parking and if the Track makes a few Bucks maybe we'll still have a place to race. I'm pretty sure they make good bucks on the friday night TNT and the other Circus Acts they do so to turn a proffit on Divisional races isn't OK? It didn't cost us a dime to have spectators.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by treessavoy

Where's the part about passing on some of the costs to the Pro's, whose sponsor's can easily afford even massive amounts of price increases.

When are they going to pay their fair share?

I am definately not a fan of the pros but they in fact do pay.Not entry fees but they pay for S/Fage used by their equiptment at the races.They also kick back on merchandise sales.Remember when sportsmen racers could put up shirts for sale?NHRA is the benefactor for all aspects.I don't begrudge them from making a buck but just how much juice can you squeeze from an orange?

Ed F.

Maybe they can find a way to fine Sorenson for a liquid spill in St.Loo.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I am definately not a fan of the pros but they in fact do pay.Not entry fees but they pay for S/Fage used by their equiptment at the races.They also kick back on merchandise sales.Remember when sportsmen racers could put up shirts for sale?NHRA is the benefactor for all aspects.I don't begrudge them from making a buck but just how much juice can you squeeze from an orange?

Ed F.

Maybe they can find a way to fine Sorenson for a liquid spill in St.Loo.

Ed,

Maybe they do pay, but they don't pay enough...at least not in comparison to us, and we don't have their mega budgets to work with...I'm living proof of that as this time last year I participated in 3div's, and one nat., plus one local race...as opposed to just going to the Pacific Sportsnats so far this year, and those price increases certainly aren't helping the matter one bit. Furthermore, to the guy in Div. 3 who said he hasn't noticed a dramatic change in car counts at races he's been to, you should've been out here at that race...all of the fields were dramatically smaller than their quotas allowed, and even smaller than last years race (with higher fuel prices)!!!

Last year 75 Stockers, this year 56...Last year 54 Super Stockers, this year 44...Last year 18 Comp. cars, this year 11...need I say more???

It kind of reminds me of the middle class tax payer as opposed to the wealthy people...I believe I heard it on the radio a couple months back...Warren Buffets receptionist pays more taxes than he does, and he's the boss!!?? Go figure....

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Ed,

Maybe they do pay, but they don't pay enough...at least not in comparison to us, and we don't have their mega budgets to work with...I'm living proof of that as this time last year I participated in 3div's, and one nat., plus one local race...as opposed to just going to the Pacific Sportsnats so far this year, and those price increases certainly aren't helping the matter one bit. Furthermore, to the guy in Div. 3 who said he hasn't noticed a dramatic change in car counts at races he's been to, you should've been out here at that race...all of the fields were dramatically smaller than their quotas allowed, and even smaller than last years race (with higher fuel prices)!!!

Last year 75 Stockers, this year 56...Last year 54 Super Stockers, this year 44...Last year 18 Comp. cars, this year 11...need I say more???

It kind of reminds me of the middle class tax payer as opposed to the wealthy people...I believe I heard it on the radio a couple months back...Warren Buffets receptionist pays more taxes than he does, and he's the boss!!?? Go figure....

You could probably retire very comfortably on what NHRA gets for pit parking and shirt sales.It's not chump change.Irregardless we are getting hosed but I've resigned myself to the fact that NHRA is in charge and no matter what we do short of just quitting willchange the situation.
All of the S/SS can't agree on ANYTHING.We all have our own opinions and agendas.Gee sort of like every day life.
I don't have the $$$ to race much this year and I really don't care.

Ed F.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You could probably retire very comfortably on what NHRA gets for pit parking and shirt sales.It's not chump change.Irregardless we are getting hosed but I've resigned myself to the fact that NHRA is in charge and no matter what we do short of just quitting willchange the situation.
All of the S/SS can't agree on ANYTHING.We all have our own opinions and agendas.Gee sort of like every day life.
I don't have the $$$ to race much this year and I really don't care.

Ed F.

Well said Ed, and I couldn't agree more with you on this one, because that's the sad ugly truth...

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You could probably retire very comfortably on what NHRA gets for pit parking and shirt sales.It's not chump change.Irregardless we are getting hosed but I've resigned myself to the fact that NHRA is in charge and no matter what we do short of just quitting willchange the situation.
All of the S/SS can't agree on ANYTHING.We all have our own opinions and agendas.Gee sort of like every day life.
I don't have the $$$ to race much this year and I really don't care.

Ed F.

Ed,

I have to correct myself for yesterdays reply...I agree with everything you said, except the "I really don't care" part of it, because if I didn't care then I would've stayed back in Denver (with the snow, the cold, and the enormously long tows that Colorado class racers have to make to get to their non-Bandimere Speedway divisionals, nationals, and even national open races!!!

I moved to Az., to race more (not less), and this stinking economy is getting to be such that I'm seriously pending another move either to Div. 6 (where divisionals are even closer to home, and they have a national open points series as well), or back to Denver...which I'll only do as a last resort, because I don't have Burton/Hagberg/Cotten kind of money! I wonder if that's part of the reason Glenn Person moved away from Mesa, Az. back to Canada also???

Sitting at home, and reading in the dragster mags of others doing what I moved away from my (now grown) children & family to pursue (becoming one of the most successful fwd stocker racers ever, and the first to win multiple national/divisional events, or even becoming the first fwd stocker racer to win a national/divisional event this century--which I came close to doing one of the two 3x's... from the '06 Mile Highs, to the '08 LODRS D7 R1 race here in Chandler, Az.).

Now that I missed my home state races, I may join you in not caring about racing this year (at least for a points chase, like last year), but I'll do my darndest to be sure that wherever I'm living post 09/09, that I'll be plotting to get back into the championship points chase next year!!!Wish me well please Ed, because I need it???

[Tracy Robbins]

Originally Posted by larrylomascolo

We apologize for the delay in getting back to you and we appreciate your email and acknowledge your disappointment in the recent announcement. NHRA has seen a dramatic increase in legal costs, insurance costs, and operational costs over the last decade, yet most of these fees have not been raised in more than a decade. NHRA has made every effort to keep fees flat, despite these rising costs. Because of our commitment to sportsman racing, NHRA has funded these rising costs all these years but must pass a portion of these costs on to the sportsman racers.



We assure you that it was a very difficult decision to raise these fees. In most cases, it represents a $60 annual increase for an individual racer. When amortized over the length of an average schedule, the increase only equates to a few dollars more per event. We understand the economic times we are in as it has a direct impact on all areas of NHRA’s business and, as a result, led to the need to increase fees. These increases will assist us in being able to continue to provide premier racing programs at the national, divisional and local level.


Again, we appreciate your note and wanted you to know that it was read and acknowledged.



Jerry Archambeault

NHRA

And the racers operating costs including insurance, gas, parts, entry fee's, hotels,etc, etc... haven't increased in the last decade? Oh... and neither has the payout!!!

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Casey, I think you're missing the point a bit on the free spectator tickets. The track operators and owners are trying to turn a profit just like any other business, by giving free gate tickets they now have X amount of potential customers on the property, I would assume this to be desireable versus having empty stands. We as racers are paying for our "place to play" is it fair to the racers? probably not but really we do have a choice, we can park our stuff. This is for the most part not desireable for most racers however it comes down to if a racer can afford to race or wishes to pay the higher fees. From the 2 races I've been to so far this year I haven't seen a sizeable difference in car counts, and to be honest quite a few of these racers have more in their tow rigs than I have in my entire operation, yet again this is all optional. I just don't think we need to get down on the spectators getting free tickets as with us they have a choice of where their going to spend their money. Joe