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Old 04-08-2009, 02:36 PM   #1
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CJ at Atco to the 1/8 = 6.16 et @ 111.86 mph. CJ at Dallas to the 1/8 = 6.210 et @ 110.01 mph and 1/4 = 9.794 @ 140.17 mph. Looks like the CJ at Atco could have gone close to 142 mph.

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It may look like Ford and Mopar have pulled this stunt off but heads have begun to roll over this mess. Things can still change. How will it hurt you, if these cars are moved to another class?
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:44 PM   #2
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Bob Pagano asked: "... what was NHRA smoking the day they put that factor on the CJ's........I WANT SOME !"

The same thing they were smoking when they decreed that somebody driving a Stock Eliminator car needs to wear S.F.I. pants.... and that seat belts need replacing ever TWO years, when even NASCAR allows them to be used for FIVE....
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:59 PM   #3
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Why is everyone so hung up on MPH. It's an elapsed time race not a high mph race.
Let's see what happens when they line up against another car in class. If they run too fast they will get hit.
I've built cars for the last 30 years and have always been short in mph. But (present car not counted) I've usually had the quickest car. Like my old partner Tex used to say "they blew by me at the last mph light (back when it was past the finish)
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:09 PM   #4
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How true Artie , how very , very true.......but at some point they'll learn to harness that MPH and turn it into ET ................
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Why is everyone so hung up on MPH. It's an elapsed time race not a high mph race.
Let's see what happens when they line up against another car in class. If they run too fast they will get hit.
I've built cars for the last 30 years and have always been short in mph. But (present car not counted) I've usually had the quickest car. Like my old partner Tex used to say "they blew by me at the last mph light (back when it was past the finish)
I agree in a sense, but its also hard to back into a car going 140 past you. However besides Calvert who got a lot of breaks in Pomona these Cj's have not really went rounds in competition yet.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:12 PM   #6
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Why is everyone so hung up on MPH. It's an elapsed time race not a high mph race.
Let's see what happens when they line up against another car in class. If they run too fast they will get hit.
I've built cars for the last 30 years and have always been short in mph. But (present car not counted) I've usually had the quickest car. Like my old partner Tex used to say "they blew by me at the last mph light (back when it was past the finish)
we know these guys are playing the system, we're using MPH to try and figure out HOW MUCH they are playing the system
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:57 PM   #7
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we know these guys are playing the system, we're using MPH to try and figure out HOW MUCH they are playing the system
How Much? - My super-gas '69 mustang would run about 110mph in the 1/8 and it was capable of 9.40's in the 1/4. My car was lighter but by the 1/8 mile they already have that extra mass accelerating faster, how much difference would there be in the second half?
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How Much? - My super-gas '69 mustang would run about 110mph in the 1/8 and it was capable of 9.40's in the 1/4. My car was lighter but by the 1/8 mile they already have that extra mass accelerating faster, how much difference would there be in the second half?
Your car should run 146 mph in the 1/4 based on a 110 mph 1/8th.

There is a post on another forum where everyone posted both their 1/8th and 1/4 mph and I did the calculations. (Post # 64) Those are real world numbers.

1/8th mile per hour is usually ( but not always) 75 % of the 1/4 mile mph. In the last 200 feet of the 1/4 mile track, I would venture to say the rate of gain noses over, a bunch.

I study speed and distance as well as rate of gain ( as a hobby) in drag racing.

Anyway, here is a copy of everyones % of mph gain from the 1/8th to the 1/4 :

25.4 %
25.4 %
26.1 %
25.8 %
26.2 %
23.7 %
24.9 %
26.1 %
28.0 %
36.9 % ...?????
23.4 %
27.2 %
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26.5 %
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25.2 %
25.4 %
31.9 %
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32.7 %
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26.0 %
29.9 %
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15.8 % ...???
24.8 %
22.6 %
26.2 %
21.6 %
31.9 %
25.8 %
29.5 %
21.1 %
27.6 %
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Jack,
CJ at Atco to the 1/8 = 6.16 et @ 111.86 mph. CJ at Dallas to the 1/8 = 6.210 et @ 110.01 mph and 1/4 = 9.794 @ 140.17 mph. Looks like the CJ at Atco could have gone close to 142 mph.

Smitty,
It may look like Ford and Mopar have pulled this stunt off but heads have begun to roll over this mess. Things can still change. How will it hurt you, if these cars are moved to another class?
How will hurt me, will it will pull the 15 year old paint and 15 year old valves out if my cylinder heads when they leave me or come by heap. It doesn't concern me that they have that much potential because anything can happen on that starting line. If those guys get in SS/IA or SS/HA we will run, I have my car to have fun and I know what my capabilities are so I don't get uptight. Heck I am in Florida, if you don't know one of the fastest if not fastest at sea level non factored SS/IA cars is here and it belongs to Rick Brewer. I know I can't out run him so I don't worry about it, he's go me covered by a second.
My whole point is we all need to run our cars and not worry about the guy in the other lane, if he has to put a number on the window make him run his number.
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Does anybody know if these AA/SA Fords are running LOCK-UP torque converters?
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