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Old 03-30-2009, 12:31 PM   #1
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What if your car is 230 or so pounds over weight...nothing you can do about it as far as taking weight out unless you go through the car a gut it even more...i weigh the better part of 320 and the super stocker i drive is 230 over the min... but there is nothing more that can be done to reduce the weight in the class i run it in....also im not trying to run a class to hide this in the natural class for year model and motor....im taking the 165 allowed for the driver and ate it for breakfast and ridin with twins...lol

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Old 03-30-2009, 01:05 PM   #2
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NHRA has a system for adjusting HP called the AHFS. The system is more difficult to apply due to sandbagging which can sometimes be attributed to running excess weight. Therefore, NHRA SHOULD mandate weight as defined within the parameters of the weight break, i.e., 9.00-9.49 equals C/S-A or SS/G-A, no more, no less.
I'd be willing to bet most, if not all vehicles with drivers can be run within those parameters given NHRA allows movement up or down a class.
I would encourage NHRA to enforce such a rule. It would help the AHFS work as designed.
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:35 PM   #3
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I think what they are trying to do is make sure we don't have more than 100 lbs. of "removable" weight.
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:46 PM   #4
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Rocky J, I used to know a Rocky J in Jersey, you wouldn't be him would you? In answer to your question, because the Caddy is a V/8 car and can't fit a lower class then U/SA becomes it's natural class so it would be a natural U/SA no matter what it weighs above 21.99. BUT in order for it to run T/SA it should have to break above 19.99.
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:52 PM   #5
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Charlie, actually there is such a rule and whoever told you that is mistaken. It's right in their black and white rulebook under "Class Weight Breaks". Either they need to enforce their rules or reword the rulebook.
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Old 03-30-2009, 03:44 PM   #6
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I think what they are trying to do is make sure we don't have more than 100 lbs. of "removable" weight.
I agree. There's nothing in the rulebook, express or implied, which indicates that NHRA has a rule requiring racers to run within the 1/2 lb weight break range required for the class. The only wording in the rulebook re: maximum weight is that you can't have more than 100 lbs of "removable" ballast. So my guess is that the only way NHRA can really do anything about excess weight in a class car is if the racer shows up more than 100 lbs. different from one run to another. The theory being that you can't change more than 100 lbs if you only have 100 lbs. of "removable" ballast.

That being said, I'd hope that NHRA notices the trend of racers running significantly heavier than their minimum and doesn't allow it to become policy (if it's not too late already...). If NHRA wants to enforce this "rule" then they need to supplement the rulebook with some sort of unambiguous language.
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Old 03-30-2009, 04:55 PM   #7
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Its very clear in the rule book

a/sa 8.00 to 8.49
b/sa 8.50 to 8.99.

That tells you exactaly where you need to be. Whats the confusion.
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Old 03-30-2009, 05:37 PM   #8
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i weigh the better part of 320 ....
Are you serious? You're a big boy (tall wise) but you don't look that BIG. You carry it well!!
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Guess that Explaines why Brandon Runs M/CM. Cant get any heavier.
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Old 03-30-2009, 05:50 PM   #10
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Actually Jared, it is expressed in black print on a white page under"Class Weight Breaks". By implying that there is a minimum weight I would guess that that is an implication of there being a maximum weight.
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