Overweight Stockers

[Billy Nees]

Treesavoy, I'm not talking about adding weight to drop a class, I'm talking about running A/SA at B/SA weight to slow the car down.

[Ron Ortiz]

Billy, I believe that you are correct. The rule book has the classes broken into half pound increments. It also states that weight can be added / removed to move to another class. Therefore its weight should comply with its class.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA being fat is OK

[RockyJ]

Billy : I know you must be waiting for someone else to point this out, so
if the 1978-79 caddy is 400 lbs heavy in u/sa ,that would mean that it would be
illegal under this interpretation of the weight rule.
The very reason that myself and another AZ racer decided not to build one of
those cars. Just in case nhra decided to enforce their own rules. Combo gone!!

[John Mason]

Originally Posted by RockyJ

Billy : I know you must be waiting for someone else to point this out, so
if the 1978-79 caddy is 400 lbs heavy in u/sa ,that would mean that it would be
illegal under this interpretation of the weight rule.
The very reason that myself and another AZ racer decided not to build one of
those cars. Just in case nhra decided to enforce their own rules. Combo gone!!

Am I missing something?
Bob Shaw runs U/SA. Per the rule book the weight break is 20.00 OR MORE. There is no max weight, only minimum. T/SA is 19.00 to 19.99. There the max weight would apply, moving him into U/SA if he's over 19.99. It seems the only weight rule would be safety related.

[Charley Downing]

At the Orlando pts the div 2 tech director ( Jim C) told racers that they must weight no more then the minimum for the next class up. Example if in you were running D/SA you could not weight more then the Minimum for E/SA with your combo. At the Gatornationls I went over the scales more then 150 pounds heavy and the div 2 tech director Jim C told me I would need to take 30 pounds out to make my car legal. After that run I went and talked to two of the national tech directors. They then told me that there was no such rule and I could run as heavy as I wanted to and not to worry about it.

[Brandon Peterson]

What if your car is 230 or so pounds over weight...nothing you can do about it as far as taking weight out unless you go through the car a gut it even more...i weigh the better part of 320 and the super stocker i drive is 230 over the min... but there is nothing more that can be done to reduce the weight in the class i run it in....also im not trying to run a class to hide this in the natural class for year model and motor....im taking the 165 allowed for the driver and ate it for breakfast and ridin with twins...lol

[Jeff Lee]

NHRA has a system for adjusting HP called the AHFS. The system is more difficult to apply due to sandbagging which can sometimes be attributed to running excess weight. Therefore, NHRA SHOULD mandate weight as defined within the parameters of the weight break, i.e., 9.00-9.49 equals C/S-A or SS/G-A, no more, no less.
I'd be willing to bet most, if not all vehicles with drivers can be run within those parameters given NHRA allows movement up or down a class.
I would encourage NHRA to enforce such a rule. It would help the AHFS work as designed.

[Jim Cimarolli]

I think what they are trying to do is make sure we don't have more than 100 lbs. of "removable" weight.

[Billy Nees]

Rocky J, I used to know a Rocky J in Jersey, you wouldn't be him would you? In answer to your question, because the Caddy is a V/8 car and can't fit a lower class then U/SA becomes it's natural class so it would be a natural U/SA no matter what it weighs above 21.99. BUT in order for it to run T/SA it should have to break above 19.99.

[Billy Nees]

Charlie, actually there is such a rule and whoever told you that is mistaken. It's right in their black and white rulebook under "Class Weight Breaks". Either they need to enforce their rules or reword the rulebook.