"WHAT IF" part 4

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

This quote just shows how much some dont know what they are talking about. They are not allowed narrowed rears, they are not allowed to move the frame rails and if you want to call a 10,5 (non W ) tire fat then go for it. They are allowed minor movement of the rear leaf springs to clear the side wall. The 10.5 tire was allowed mainly for the higher HP cars in AA and A, etc at the time this came about some of the southern IHRA tracks that these races were held on were not of the highest caliber in the traction dept. Besides have you ever seen how much modification of the wheel house and external fender is required to put a 9 inch slick on something like a 66-67 Chev Nova for NHRA. Oh yeah...its just a "STOCK" bolt on deal.....lol.

I apologize if the frame narrowing is incorrect. I was going from Robert Swartz post. IHRA is not out west so I am not familiar with your rules, sorry. If you believe there are no narrowed rearends in NHRA stocker you may also be mistaken a little bit.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

I apologize if the frame narrowing is incorrect. I was going from Robert Swartz post. IHRA is not out west so I am not familiar with your rules, sorry. If you believe there are no narrowed rearends in NHRA stocker you may also be mistaken a little bit.

Yes I know that some of the NHRA cars and IHRA cars also have slightly narrowed rear housings. Who really cares as long as it looks correct. I was just saying that the amount they moved the leaf spring for side wall clearence was usually less than 3/4 of an inch on each side. This is in comparison with all of the body work required to fit a 9 inch stocker tire on some body styles. In time I hope IHRA changes the wording in thier rule book. A 9 inch radial is quicker than the 10.5's anyway.

[XSTOCKER]

IDRA Independent Drag Racer Alliance

Bunch the abc, def, ghi etc. together for the Saturday afternoon class run-offs, no handy capped starts, more heads-up racing. Heads-up format is marketable. Run the class winners off together for the big event braggin rights Saturday night. Bunch everyone together Sunday afternoon for a Stock/Superstock combo bracket race.
My 2 cents, Mike Szcz

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

I apologize if the frame narrowing is incorrect. I was going from Robert Swartz post. IHRA is not out west so I am not familiar with your rules, sorry. If you believe there are no narrowed rearends in NHRA stocker you may also be mistaken a little bit.

Harry,

I too, could have phrased differently the wording. I guess it was a bit misleading. If your not familiar with IHRA rules, there are some differences. I don't see the rule differences being so substantial that we all can't come to some compromises and have a race. As Terry stated, IHRA rules allow minor inboard movement of the springs. And I took that from the rulebook. Here again, the car I'm building, a 1979 Firebird, I have no intention of running anything larger than the 9" tires.

No, you are NOT allowed a narrowed rear end. Now, something I've heard but can't substantiate, is some guys have mini-tubbed stockers in IHRA? Maybe someone currently racing can clear that up for me? Here again, I wouldn't do it because I one day may want to build either a 301 Pontiac or a 403 Oldsmobile engine to run NHRA events. I want my car to retain it's versatility.

On another note, even though I don't presently have a car ready to race. IF I had a say on the name. I like the CRA = Class Racers Association. That's my two jingling penny's.

Robert Swartz

[Bobby Lundholm]

Mini tub's are for front drive conversion crate motor stockers.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Bobby Lundholm

Mini tub's are for front drive conversion crate motor stockers.

Correct.... ...and which there are only 4 of in the country. Not sure about Wright's Probe and Mace's new Sunfire, but I believe the Ross's Avenger and Sebring fit their 9" tires within the stock wheelwell.

[Robert Swartz]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Lundholm
Mini tub's are for front drive conversion crate motor stockers

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Correct.... ...and which there are only 4 of in the country. Not sure about Wright's Probe and Mace's new Sunfire, but I believe the Ross's Avenger and Sebring fit their 9" tires within the stock wheelwell.

Michael & Bobby,

Thank you both for clearing up that misconception.

Robert Swartz

[GarysZ24]

[QUOTE=X-TECH MAN;108474]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

what rules do we go to in case of mulitple rules ?
like pistons, slick size etc ?

thats the only big issue i see

Hummmm, you guys tell me what you want. I personally always thought the NHRA piston rule was BS. I like IHRA' s or the way the old stockers from the late '60's and early 70's had thier piston rule. It wasnt any more expensive to buy these pistons and a hell of lot eaiser to police. Id say use 9"inch tires on the stockers but 10 inch tires last longer but are slower and dont fit some wheel wells as easily. As far as Im concerened its open for discussion. Maybe Alex will say different?? Its going to be YOUR association. I guess this is a good time to state your likes and dislikes about both NHRA and IHRA rules. At first the rules should be close to both associations but the lack of inspections in IHRA and the lack of interest from NHRA is something that needs to be dealt with.

Hey Jack and/or Terry,

How would you handle "THE FEW, THE PROUD, THE FRONT WHEEL DRIVE STOCKER RACERS"? I must ask, because while NHRA only has five classes for us, IHRA has 16...which NHRA hasn't had for at least 4yrs??? If you wanted to keep class sizes down, I'd have no problem running in the F/I class, because the IHRA's "L/FIA class could be do-able too??? Just a thought....

[Mike Carr]

Gary, I would think we'd have our choice. DF/S, or EF/SA (or D or F, depending on weight), since they are both 19 pound classes and both have 15.90 Indexes.

[Trevor Weiss]

National class racers association "ncra"