"DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval

Jeff Lee · 03-04-2009, 08:42 PM

Good point on Hurst. Hurst has long been recognized by NHRA w/ Oldsmobile. Hurst is offering supercharger options on the Challenger with both the 5.7L & 6.1L Hemi's. If Hurst does petition NHRA for allowance of their own Challenger, I would suggest a 480 HP rating. How did I come up with that?
425 HP / 5.4L supercharged Ford = 78.70 HP per liter.
78.70 HP x 6.1L supercharged Hemi = 480 HP.
Simple as that!

Saleen has also entered the Dodge Challenger tuner market. Saleen Mustangs have been recognized by NHRA as production vehicles so I would assume incorporating the Challengers by Saleen into the class guide shouldn't be an issue either.

Regarding the 6.1L Hemi SRT8 engine, I've mentioned it before but feel it's worth mentioning again. MACH Development took a 6.1L crate engine with full factory exhaust manifolds and front drive accesories, added larger injectors and provided their own tune. Idled "like a kitten" as he said and ripped 550 HP out of the factory 425 HP engine. This is not a blue-printed engine, it's right out of the MOPAR crate with the oil even provided in the assembly.
The "race" 6.1L Hemi provided with the Drag-Pak Challenger is an improvement on the above mentioned street Hemi.
I have no doubt a CJ500 vs. Race Hemi will be competitive; and exciting!

I read a Motor Trend article yesterday where GM was looking at political correctness in the current green world environment and elected to drop the 2010 Z-28 which was slated to use the 550HP Cadilac CTS-V supercharged engine (ZL1 'Vette engine de-tuned from 634 HP). Other concerns mentioned by GM was they had doubts (concerns?) about traction with such an engine in the RWD chassis.
Those that voted "for change" stand in a circle and say Yea!

bsa633 · 03-04-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

, I would suggest a 480 HP rating. How did I come up with that?
425 HP / 5.4L supercharged Ford = 78.70 HP per liter.
78.70 HP x 6.1L supercharged Hemi = 480 HP.
Simple as that!

Fair enough...but i dont se it making Stock at that rating anyway..needs to be lower..so it would be SS...right were they should be!

Walker4108 · 03-04-2009, 09:59 PM

When will we see the first one on a qualifing sheet?

DonatoEng · 03-04-2009, 11:19 PM

There are three engines available for the Challenger package car, 6.1L & 5.7L Hemi and the 5.9L Magnum Wedge.

rx dealer · 03-05-2009, 07:42 AM

By the way, the challenger cars are built by Roush industries ( yes Jack Roush ) and that's were Don Garlits car is awaiting to get the MPR treatment...Luke

Michael Lyons · 03-05-2009, 09:16 AM

How does a car get the MPR treatment when its at Roush?

Its a dang shame GM isn't building a Camaro stocker. Not sure why you can't offer it at a price you can make money at for it and see how many orders you get and then build it? Whys everything gotta be so complicated?..

junior barns · 03-05-2009, 09:44 AM

"Whys everything gotta be so complicated?."

Always has been with GM. Takes GM twice as long or longer to get new product out! By this time GM has missed the boat. Ford or whoever had done sold the market!!

To big and to many cheifs!!!!!

.

Tim Kish · 03-05-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I read a Motor Trend article yesterday where GM was looking at political correctness in the current green world environment and elected to drop the 2010 Z-28 which was slated to use the 550HP Cadilac CTS-V supercharged engine (ZL1 'Vette engine de-tuned from 634 HP). Other concerns mentioned by GM was they had doubts (concerns?) about traction with such an engine in the RWD chassis.
Those that voted "for change" stand in a circle and say Yea!

When the supercharged Camaro project was cancelled the GM position at that time was that they only had $$ to support X development projects and they had to focus on higher volume platforms. This was well before the election. Having the current governments position being "everyone should have a hybrid and your alive because of our money so this is what you'll build" doesn't help the performance buyers cause either.

D.Holly · 03-05-2009, 01:32 PM

New Challenger ready to go!http://www.evansvillechrysler.com/ch...challenger_top

Jeff Lee · 03-05-2009, 02:47 PM

Great job on the graphics, simple but effective.
What engine size is that and what are some of the specs? Obviously not an NHRA S/SS package but impressive anyways!

03-04-2009, 08:42 PM	#1
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval Good point on Hurst. Hurst has long been recognized by NHRA w/ Oldsmobile. Hurst is offering supercharger options on the Challenger with both the 5.7L & 6.1L Hemi's. If Hurst does petition NHRA for allowance of their own Challenger, I would suggest a 480 HP rating. How did I come up with that? 425 HP / 5.4L supercharged Ford = 78.70 HP per liter. 78.70 HP x 6.1L supercharged Hemi = 480 HP. Simple as that! Saleen has also entered the Dodge Challenger tuner market. Saleen Mustangs have been recognized by NHRA as production vehicles so I would assume incorporating the Challengers by Saleen into the class guide shouldn't be an issue either. Regarding the 6.1L Hemi SRT8 engine, I've mentioned it before but feel it's worth mentioning again. MACH Development took a 6.1L crate engine with full factory exhaust manifolds and front drive accesories, added larger injectors and provided their own tune. Idled "like a kitten" as he said and ripped 550 HP out of the factory 425 HP engine. This is not a blue-printed engine, it's right out of the MOPAR crate with the oil even provided in the assembly. The "race" 6.1L Hemi provided with the Drag-Pak Challenger is an improvement on the above mentioned street Hemi. I have no doubt a CJ500 vs. Race Hemi will be competitive; and exciting! I read a Motor Trend article yesterday where GM was looking at political correctness in the current green world environment and elected to drop the 2010 Z-28 which was slated to use the 550HP Cadilac CTS-V supercharged engine (ZL1 'Vette engine de-tuned from 634 HP). Other concerns mentioned by GM was they had doubts (concerns?) about traction with such an engine in the RWD chassis. Those that voted "for change" stand in a circle and say Yea! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX Last edited by Jeff Lee; 03-04-2009 at 08:44 PM.

03-04-2009, 09:59 PM	#3
Walker4108 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 159 Likes: 92 Liked 7 Times in 1 Post	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval When will we see the first one on a qualifing sheet?

03-04-2009, 11:19 PM	#4
DonatoEng Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 147 Likes: 13 Liked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval There are three engines available for the Challenger package car, 6.1L & 5.7L Hemi and the 5.9L Magnum Wedge.

03-05-2009, 07:42 AM	#5
rx dealer Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lake Orion, Michigan Posts: 337 Likes: 12 Liked 53 Times in 13 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval By the way, the challenger cars are built by Roush industries ( yes Jack Roush ) and that's were Don Garlits car is awaiting to get the MPR treatment...Luke

03-05-2009, 09:16 AM	#6
Michael Lyons Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Garden City, MI Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval How does a car get the MPR treatment when its at Roush? Its a dang shame GM isn't building a Camaro stocker. Not sure why you can't offer it at a price you can make money at for it and see how many orders you get and then build it? Whys everything gotta be so complicated?..

03-05-2009, 09:44 AM	#7
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval "Whys everything gotta be so complicated?." Always has been with GM. Takes GM twice as long or longer to get new product out! By this time GM has missed the boat. Ford or whoever had done sold the market!! To big and to many cheifs!!!!! .

03-05-2009, 01:32 PM	#9
D.Holly Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mid Michigan Posts: 149 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval New Challenger ready to go!http://www.evansvillechrysler.com/ch...challenger_top

03-05-2009, 02:47 PM	#10
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval Great job on the graphics, simple but effective. What engine size is that and what are some of the specs? Obviously not an NHRA S/SS package but impressive anyways! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

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