Another demonstartion of the new cars' absurdities...

Mike Carr · 09-06-2010, 11:53 PM

Just for the fun of it, I went back to Nitro Joe's End of the Year Stats from 2008 and 2009, for a comparison of new cars vs old cars.

The following are the best runs of that year for C, D, E and G/SA, NHRA and IHRA both, for the past two seasons. All HP as of the time the run was made.

Class Name Car Cid/HP ET Race
NHRA 2008
C/SA Cody Lane, '96 Corvette 350/330 10.386 Qualifying Woodburn D-6 race
D/SA Scott Burton, '71 Formula 455/340 10.513 Q Earlville Iowa, September
E/SA Ken Kopecky, '71 Demon 340/314 10.664 Q Dutch Classic Nat'l Open October
G/SA Jim Marshall, '81 Corvette 350/285 10.933 Q Dutch Classic NO

IHRA 2008
C/SA Jim Boudreau, '69 Camaro 396 10.430 Q Epping NA Nat'ls September
D/SA Leon Philpot, '71 Corvette 454 10.770 D4-6 Baton Rouge LA
E/SA Jim Kaekel, '70 Olds 442 455 11.001 D5-5 Osceola IN September
G/SA JIm Marshall 10.933 Q World Finals October

NHRA 2009
C/SA Jim Conte, '69 Mustang 428/383 10.335 Rd 5, D1-5, Cecil County August
D/SA Brad VanLant, '71 Duster 340/314 10.559 Q Earlville D5-6 September
E/SA Brad Van Lant " " " " 10.622 Q KCIR Nat'l Open October
G/SA Jim Marshall 10.933 Q D2-6 Renolyds GA October

IHRA 2009
C/SA Jim Boudreau, '69 Camaro 396 10.199 Q D1-7 Epping September
D/SA Leon Philpot, '71 Corvette 454 10.779 Rd 1 D4-4 Baton Rouge
E/SA Jerry Davis, '71 Duster 340 10.833 Q Texas Nationals
G/SA Jim Marshall 10.905 Q Canaduan Nationals

All these runs were made by really good cars, in pretty good air, by people who have had them, beat on them, and know them pretty well, for quite a while.

Now, let's look at some of the runs from this past weekend at Indy.

C/SA Dempsey Pendarvis, '09 Challenger 5.7 315 Rd 1 US Nat'ls 9.797
D/SA Irvin Johns, '09 Challenger 5.7 315 Rd 1 US Nat'ls 9.983
E/SA Carey Bales, '09 Challenger 5.7 315 Rd 1 US Nat'ls 10.000
G/SA Jeff Tueton, '09 Challenger 5.9 275 Rd 1 US Nat'ls 10.529

These cars, having been on the track for a year or less, outran a lot of really good cars by anywhere from FOUR TO SIX TENTHS, the new cars Indy runs compared to the old cars best runs, in good air. Heads-up at the same race at Indy, some new cars were outrunning really good old cars by as much as EIGHT TENTHS. Just imagine how fast they, along with the new Mustangs combos, will be with more track time, testing, etc. And the 3.25% horsepower that the 5.7, 5.9 Mopars and the Mustang combination Chris Holbrook has will receive tomorrow will barely make a dent in the armor. And all from cars you could not get from a dealer.

Just a sad state of affairs in the current state of Class Racing.

09-06-2010, 11:53 PM	#1
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Another demonstartion of the new cars' absurdities... Just for the fun of it, I went back to Nitro Joe's End of the Year Stats from 2008 and 2009, for a comparison of new cars vs old cars. The following are the best runs of that year for C, D, E and G/SA, NHRA and IHRA both, for the past two seasons. All HP as of the time the run was made. Class Name Car Cid/HP ET Race NHRA 2008 C/SA Cody Lane, '96 Corvette 350/330 10.386 Qualifying Woodburn D-6 race D/SA Scott Burton, '71 Formula 455/340 10.513 Q Earlville Iowa, September E/SA Ken Kopecky, '71 Demon 340/314 10.664 Q Dutch Classic Nat'l Open October G/SA Jim Marshall, '81 Corvette 350/285 10.933 Q Dutch Classic NO IHRA 2008 C/SA Jim Boudreau, '69 Camaro 396 10.430 Q Epping NA Nat'ls September D/SA Leon Philpot, '71 Corvette 454 10.770 D4-6 Baton Rouge LA E/SA Jim Kaekel, '70 Olds 442 455 11.001 D5-5 Osceola IN September G/SA JIm Marshall 10.933 Q World Finals October NHRA 2009 C/SA Jim Conte, '69 Mustang 428/383 10.335 Rd 5, D1-5, Cecil County August D/SA Brad VanLant, '71 Duster 340/314 10.559 Q Earlville D5-6 September E/SA Brad Van Lant " " " " 10.622 Q KCIR Nat'l Open October G/SA Jim Marshall 10.933 Q D2-6 Renolyds GA October IHRA 2009 C/SA Jim Boudreau, '69 Camaro 396 10.199 Q D1-7 Epping September D/SA Leon Philpot, '71 Corvette 454 10.779 Rd 1 D4-4 Baton Rouge E/SA Jerry Davis, '71 Duster 340 10.833 Q Texas Nationals G/SA Jim Marshall 10.905 Q Canaduan Nationals All these runs were made by really good cars, in pretty good air, by people who have had them, beat on them, and know them pretty well, for quite a while. Now, let's look at some of the runs from this past weekend at Indy. C/SA Dempsey Pendarvis, '09 Challenger 5.7 315 Rd 1 US Nat'ls 9.797 D/SA Irvin Johns, '09 Challenger 5.7 315 Rd 1 US Nat'ls 9.983 E/SA Carey Bales, '09 Challenger 5.7 315 Rd 1 US Nat'ls 10.000 G/SA Jeff Tueton, '09 Challenger 5.9 275 Rd 1 US Nat'ls 10.529 These cars, having been on the track for a year or less, outran a lot of really good cars by anywhere from FOUR TO SIX TENTHS, the new cars Indy runs compared to the old cars best runs, in good air. Heads-up at the same race at Indy, some new cars were outrunning really good old cars by as much as EIGHT TENTHS. Just imagine how fast they, along with the new Mustangs combos, will be with more track time, testing, etc. And the 3.25% horsepower that the 5.7, 5.9 Mopars and the Mustang combination Chris Holbrook has will receive tomorrow will barely make a dent in the armor. And all from cars you could not get from a dealer. Just a sad state of affairs in the current state of Class Racing. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912 Last edited by Mike Carr; 09-22-2010 at 11:44 AM.