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Old 10-19-2022, 05:27 PM   #51
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The race should have been re run end of story !

BINGO!!! Which would result in Troy being the winner on a broke bye

As for the rule book being enforced lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol!!!!!!

Reason 1 of 423,578 why I will not class race again.
Sorry but this is probably the dumbest post on this thread. First you are all for the the NHRA (DD) not enforcing the rule of the drivers being responsible for their dial, and then you won't class race ever again because the NHRA won't enforce the rules in the book! Make up your mind. Maybe if you actually raced and as Larry said, saw how fun it can be when the rules are adhered to you might understand how frustrating it can be when they are not! Jim

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Old 10-19-2022, 06:46 PM   #52
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Yes, I could have headed this thread with something other than what I did. However, I not only wanted to get everyone's attention but was hoping Troy would give his thoughts on the situation.

With that said, I would ask if anyone here is familiar with the "first or worst" violation with regards to a competition run? The first problem was both drivers not checking their dials. The second and only real violation was Troy breaking out by .5 because he failed to check his dial. Casey did nothing but fail to check his dial. The computer gave him the win. He didn't break out, cross the center line, hit the guard rail, oil down the track or anything. He broke his engine and pulled over. He did everything else as the rule book tells him to do. There is no disputing this. So I ask, what is worst, failing to check your dial or breaking out by half a second?

Some of you have made your opinions based on your feelings rather than the facts and rules we are all supposed to compete by. Everything points to both DD Savage and Troy screwing up. Casey violated no rule and the computer gave him the win. The DD decided to disregard the rules and give the win to Troy. That is a fact. Just because he gave the win to the wrong driver, for whatever reason, doesn't make it right or defensible.

1.4 FINALITY OF DECISIONS BY EVENT DIRECTOR, DESIGNEES OR OTHER EVENT OFFICIALS

Last sentence in paragraph one is worth reading.

“While the decisions, actions or inactions of Event Officials are not appealable, NHRA reserves the right to reverse such decisions or review such actions or inactions on its own initiative if it determines, in its sole and absolute judgment, that such action is warranted.”

I intend to ask NHRA to review this situation and make a decision. Jim


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Old 10-19-2022, 07:31 PM   #53
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I have been following this thread since Monday afternoon…..SOMEONE in the tower made a HUGE mistake by posting the class index on the scoreboard. I will not BLAME/BERATE a track employee that probably makes 10 bucks an hour. …..BOTH racers accepted the WRONG dial ins……What are the odds of that happening ????? Both TROY and CASEY made this mistake….TROY obviously ran under his dial in THAT HE ACCEPTED…. CASEY has a WINNING time slip in his hand..….I just WONDER what logic the DD used by declaring TROY the winner ????
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Old 10-19-2022, 08:17 PM   #54
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Seems there was mistakes on all sides of this race. The tower made a mistake on the dial ins. The drivers made a mistake by not catching the incorrect dial ins. The div director might have made a mistake in his decision on which car advanced to the next round. But a decision was made and you have to live with that decision.

Stuff like this really doesnt happen very often. I can count on my one hand the amount of times my dial has been incorrect and I have been racing a long time. Once you get burned it wont happen to you again.

The Huntzberrys are a great family. They support stock and super stock racing. I received a $100 check from them for my win at Reynolds this year. I was taken back when that happened. I had no idea that they were doing it. Troy's wife searched me out on facebook to get my check to me because NHRA gave her a wrong address and the check got returned.
So far,this is the most rational response to this post.And sorry if I made some inappropriate health comments at the beginning.I just didn't think it was appropriate to call out a racer who I don't even know.If a player is safe or out or catches the pass or drops it,don't hate the player,hate the referee if the call was bad.
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Old 10-19-2022, 08:28 PM   #55
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Bottom line the official made an uninformed call. In my mind NHRA needs to remove points and send Mr. Wahl his third round money. No more and nothing less.
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Bottom line the official made an uninformed call. In my mind NHRA needs to remove points and send Mr. Wahl his third round money. No more and nothing less.
Larry , it will never happen
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Old 10-19-2022, 08:59 PM   #57
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So far,this is the most rational response to this post.And sorry if I made some inappropriate health comments at the beginning.I just didn't think it was appropriate to call out a racer who I don't even know.If a player is safe or out or catches the pass or drops it,don't hate the player,hate the referee if the call was bad.
Wow! Did you even read where I explained why I supposedly "called out" Troy? I wanted to have him explain his side here. I didn't know I had to 'know" someone to "call" them out. Not sure what baseball or football has to do with this situation but I don't recall anyone mentioning anyone being hated. Did I miss something. Unlike many here, I have read and reread every post and carefully thought about their content before I commented on them. If you're interested enough to comment on this, please be interested enough to read the whole thread.

I have received 28 phone calls in the last two days from racers who felt they needed to comment to me personally. 26 agreed completely that Casey won and Troy lost, and that the DD compounded the problem by reinstating Troy. One of the other two just wanted to tell me I was wasting my time bringing this situation up to the racers on this site. The other one called Casey and me idiots and agreed with the DD. He did admit he was a good friend of the Hutzberry's. I don't think I am wasting my time. I actually feel rather vindicated. Thank you Larry for being the voice of reason here. It means a lot tome. Jim

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Does this really need to be about Troy? I met Harry Huntzberry in the lanes many years ago at MRI and I'm quite sure this group knows how to race. The Division Director made the wrong call. End of story.
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How many Division Directors have there been in the past ten years in all seven of the
divisions? It used to be like serving on the SCOTUS.
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Does this really need to be about Troy? I met Harry Huntzberry in the lanes many years ago at MRI and I'm quite sure this group knows how to race. The Division Director made the wrong call. End of story.
OK. I'm gunna try and explain this one more time. In answer to your question. Yes, it needed to be about Troy, and it needed to be about Casey, and it needed to be about Cody Savage (DD2). I took journalism in college and the first thing they tell you is "sensationalism sells". I already explained I wanted Troys ideas on the situation. You heard from me, you heard from Casey and I'm still hoping to hear from Troy. I think I made it clear enough in my posts that I laid the bulk of the problem with the DD. I said both of the drivers made mistakes but the DD just plain screwed the pooch on this. Frankly it doesn't matter whether you know or like either of the drivers. I could have called them "Driver A" and "Driver B" but that would have been stupid. I don't know either racer well enough to comment on what great guys they are but that has nothing to do with the situation. In fact, I don't know Troy at all. The facts clearly show Casey won and got screwed by the DD's uneducated call. Now I don't know you either Frank but I would feel the same way if it was you instead of Casey. Jim


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