67 4 dr hemi belvedere

House of Darts · 06-05-2016, 08:18 PM

Saw this on NHRA stock classification guide. Could not find this in my 1967 Plymouth parts catalog. Does such a thing exist?

4406mopar · 06-05-2016, 09:28 PM

Yes in 1966 and 1967 only. There are know surviving examples of Belvedere and Coronet 4 doors. Also previously know ones that have vanished. There was one at the Garlits museum, maybe still there.

Greg Gay · 06-06-2016, 04:53 PM

I THOUGHT that there were only two 4 door Hemi cars, both 66 Dodge Coronets. Some combinations appear in the guide that could have been built, even though they never actually were. I don't believe there ever was a 67 Plymouth Hemi station wagon built upon the assembly line, even though at least one was raced in NHRA competition. Mopar did the engineering and supplied a shipping weight. We need Paul Cresine back for verification.

Greg

Carguy49 · 06-06-2016, 06:40 PM

I remember seeing a 66 or 67 Hemi Belvedere 4 door at the local hang out about 70 or 71. Can't remember all the details, but it was a plain jane car with dog dish hubcaps. Beige in color, if I remember correctly.

Jeff Teuton · 06-06-2016, 09:14 PM

I think Gaylon Govier found a couple in the paperwork while researching the files. I know in the 66 Parts Manual one of the pictures in the body section is a Coronet Wagon with a 426 Hemi. Of course those are illustrations. The 70-71 parts manual are combined years and I can assure you there a couple of things put in there just for NHRA, but I ain't sayin what. And maybe they existed. In 1969 the 440 Dart and Cuda were never offered to the general public dealers. Nobody was more intuned with the performance than us. But they made them. There are several blueprint errors from that era, but I guess now they are fact. After that many years it don't matter. I still have the parts books back to 1960.

Travis Miller · 06-06-2016, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Gay

Some combinations appear in the guide that could have been built, even though they never actually were.
Greg

In the past many specs were sent to NHRA pre-production. There is still a 1970 Monte Carlo convertible shown in the classguide.

SStockDart · 06-07-2016, 12:41 AM

Gary Ostrich raced a 66-67 Plymouth wagon in Super Stock. Don't know if it was produced that way. Al Corda would know.

Spyphish · 06-07-2016, 07:55 AM

COMING TO A TRACK NEAR YOU!!! on open trailer to boot

Picked this four door Deluxe puppy up yesterday. Going to make a hemi stocker. Love the paint but NHRA said car must be "presentable". How about that FBI trailer hitch. Phish

Brett C · 06-07-2016, 08:43 AM

I have a 66 Belvedere "Satellite" 2 dr hard top hemi if anyone has any interest.

Pedigo Perf · 06-07-2016, 11:25 AM

There were only two 4 door Hemi cars, both ended up in Wichita (go figure) back in the 70's. I rebuilt the engine in the car the Garlits has in his museum. It was neat to talk to him about that car at PRI several years ago, he claims he still drives it from time to time. The car had all original parts and the engine had about 166k miles as I remember and there was very minimal wear, we even went back with the original bore size and the crank just needed polishing. There were several strange markings stamped around on the block and with a little research it was determined that there were special bearing sizes (plus or minus .001) for each type of stamping. Cant remember all the details but it was amazing how well that Hemi held up for that many miles, back when most engines didn't make it past 100k.

Tracy

06-05-2016, 08:18 PM	#1
House of Darts Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 346 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	67 4 dr hemi belvedere Saw this on NHRA stock classification guide. Could not find this in my 1967 Plymouth parts catalog. Does such a thing exist?

06-05-2016, 09:28 PM	#2
4406mopar Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 231 Likes: 168 Liked 113 Times in 50 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere Yes in 1966 and 1967 only. There are know surviving examples of Belvedere and Coronet 4 doors. Also previously know ones that have vanished. There was one at the Garlits museum, maybe still there.

06-06-2016, 04:53 PM	#3
Greg Gay Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 385 Likes: 21 Liked 283 Times in 70 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere I THOUGHT that there were only two 4 door Hemi cars, both 66 Dodge Coronets. Some combinations appear in the guide that could have been built, even though they never actually were. I don't believe there ever was a 67 Plymouth Hemi station wagon built upon the assembly line, even though at least one was raced in NHRA competition. Mopar did the engineering and supplied a shipping weight. We need Paul Cresine back for verification. Greg

06-06-2016, 06:40 PM	#4
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,976 Likes: 2,465 Liked 2,937 Times in 706 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere I remember seeing a 66 or 67 Hemi Belvedere 4 door at the local hang out about 70 or 71. Can't remember all the details, but it was a plain jane car with dog dish hubcaps. Beige in color, if I remember correctly. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.

06-06-2016, 09:14 PM	#5
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere I think Gaylon Govier found a couple in the paperwork while researching the files. I know in the 66 Parts Manual one of the pictures in the body section is a Coronet Wagon with a 426 Hemi. Of course those are illustrations. The 70-71 parts manual are combined years and I can assure you there a couple of things put in there just for NHRA, but I ain't sayin what. And maybe they existed. In 1969 the 440 Dart and Cuda were never offered to the general public dealers. Nobody was more intuned with the performance than us. But they made them. There are several blueprint errors from that era, but I guess now they are fact. After that many years it don't matter. I still have the parts books back to 1960. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

06-07-2016, 12:41 AM	#7
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,176 Likes: 878 Liked 574 Times in 212 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere Gary Ostrich raced a 66-67 Plymouth wagon in Super Stock. Don't know if it was produced that way. Al Corda would know. __________________ Gary Hansen - SS/FA 4911, B/SA 4911

06-07-2016, 07:55 AM	#8
Spyphish Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 846 Likes: 16 Liked 679 Times in 180 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere COMING TO A TRACK NEAR YOU!!! on open trailer to boot Picked this four door Deluxe puppy up yesterday. Going to make a hemi stocker. Love the paint but NHRA said car must be "presentable". How about that FBI trailer hitch. Phish Attached Thumbnails

06-07-2016, 08:43 AM	#9
Brett C VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 1,195 Likes: 327 Liked 1,018 Times in 217 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere I have a 66 Belvedere "Satellite" 2 dr hard top hemi if anyone has any interest. __________________ Brett Candies 4192 Stock/SS God Bless America

06-07-2016, 11:25 AM	#10
Pedigo Perf Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wichita Ks Posts: 383 Likes: 70 Liked 30 Times in 17 Posts	Re: 67 4 dr hemi belvedere There were only two 4 door Hemi cars, both ended up in Wichita (go figure) back in the 70's. I rebuilt the engine in the car the Garlits has in his museum. It was neat to talk to him about that car at PRI several years ago, he claims he still drives it from time to time. The car had all original parts and the engine had about 166k miles as I remember and there was very minimal wear, we even went back with the original bore size and the crank just needed polishing. There were several strange markings stamped around on the block and with a little research it was determined that there were special bearing sizes (plus or minus .001) for each type of stamping. Cant remember all the details but it was amazing how well that Hemi held up for that many miles, back when most engines didn't make it past 100k. Tracy