2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock - Page 3

Jim Wahl · 03-18-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by novassdude

Lets face it who is going to buy and build one of these if it was rated correctly? For 75-100 Grand you should get a free pass to the top of the heap. If you want a great combo just buy all the NHRA guys a new car to drive around and then tell them what you want at what ever joke of a rating you want.

NHRA is quickly making Stock and Super Stock nothing but a joke. Very sad that they don't realize they are shooting themselves in the foot, or maybe they do understand and they are just padding their bank accounts before they economy tanks our sport. That would explain why they are taking no action to try and promote sportsman racing. Maybe they just think we are dead men walking? In any case it just proves that their moto is still "show me the money!". Jim

Wally would be so proud

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MikeFicacci · 03-18-2011, 12:06 PM

This combo has been on the books for over a year now.

Charley Downing · 03-18-2011, 05:50 PM

Same group off people bitching about the same thing over and over again.

davidhuff · 03-18-2011, 05:54 PM

I think the new cars are great for drag racing.Who wants to build a 50 year old rust bucket into a NHRA Stocker?

Sean Cour · 03-18-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Its because of the way NHRA treats the rest of the racers in stock elim. Just what we need is another new purpose made car with a bogus HP rating. Stock is a joke since NHRA has accepted these new cars without a correct HP rating. Now its working its way down onto the lower clases. What else would you expect for me to say? Oh Golly gee thats cool ! This is BS.

How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***!

Jim Wahl · 03-18-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***!

Compton doesn't have to wipe his ***, not while he still has racers who are willing to wipe it for him. Jim

Sean Cour · 03-18-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Compton doesn't have to wipe his ***, not while he still has racers who are willing to wipe it for him. Jim

Racers wiping Compton's ***? Are you referring to participation? Elaborate please.

goinbroke2 · 03-18-2011, 11:26 PM

Not trying to play the devil's advocate here, but..

Ah, I just deleted a long post. I'll sum it up so it won't be too inflamatory;
Not too many years ago I remember being on here (along with others) thinking how cool it would be for the factories to get involved in S&SS racing again. We had all kinds of great reasons for them to dump money back into our favorite sport, win on sunday/sell on monday, exposure/bragging rights for ad's. Oh it was going to be great.

Guess what. They did come back. Only they want ensure they get a good ROI so they ensure their cars are seen and seen winning. yes factors are a bit skewed..ok, a lot skewed, but since jumping back in, ford has continually made more and more racing parts available. Heck look at the street cars, as soon as chev announced that the 2012 camaro will be 550hp to beat the gt500's 525hp...ford announced the 2013 gt500 will have 600hp! That's 600HP!!!! With a warranty!! Available at any dealership!!!
Is the HP war on again? HELL YEAH! Chev has a 397hp diesel, ford puts out a 400hp. It's crazy.
You want to buy a drag car from the factory? Done.
You want to buy a body in white to build a dragcar? Done.
You want to buy the latest/greatest engine available? Done.

Yes heads up sucks if they're in the other lane. I feel for ya. It's not the racers fault for having a car that is slowly becoming obsolete. It's also not the racers fault for wanting to race a new car. Yes it is the *HRA's and the manufacturer's "fault", but look at it from their side for once and not only your own side.
Would you dump massive amount of time money and effort into something knowing that the only area you didn't put 100% was where it would count the most to get a ROI? Of course not.

At least they didn't just update the cutoff year! How much crying would there be if they said "20 year old cars maximum"?
The guide would start in 1990.
I'm just saying, it's not good, but it could be a hell of a lot worse.

(I thought this was going to be shorter??)

novassdude · 03-19-2011, 12:59 AM

I think most would have no problem if the factory was behind people racing the cars that are on the lot with the motors that came with them. Not special built engines that do not come in the street version.
It is just a slap in the face when they get a pumped up version of the street engine and it is rated well below the street versions HP numbers.

Steve Sullivan · 03-19-2011, 12:21 PM

Quote: How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***!

Thank you Sean Cour!!! About time somebody told that bloviating gas bag to shut up.

Mr. Bell needs to get a life. He seems to spend most of his miserable existence being a derisive wet blanket, here and on the H.A.M.B. He and quite a few other douchebags on here are why many more people don't participate on this forum. Between the continual bitching and talk radio politics it's not somewhere you would want to go for any intelligent discussion about Stock/Superstock racing!!!.

03-18-2011, 12:06 PM	#22
MikeFicacci Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 241 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock This combo has been on the books for over a year now. __________________ Mike Ficacci Stk 1010

03-18-2011, 05:50 PM	#23
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock Same group off people bitching about the same thing over and over again. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

03-18-2011, 05:54 PM	#24
davidhuff Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 928 Likes: 1 Liked 120 Times in 42 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock I think the new cars are great for drag racing.Who wants to build a 50 year old rust bucket into a NHRA Stocker? Last edited by davidhuff; 03-18-2011 at 05:57 PM.

03-18-2011, 11:26 PM	#28
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 885 Likes: 1,568 Liked 381 Times in 148 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock Not trying to play the devil's advocate here, but.. Ah, I just deleted a long post. I'll sum it up so it won't be too inflamatory; Not too many years ago I remember being on here (along with others) thinking how cool it would be for the factories to get involved in S&SS racing again. We had all kinds of great reasons for them to dump money back into our favorite sport, win on sunday/sell on monday, exposure/bragging rights for ad's. Oh it was going to be great. Guess what. They did come back. Only they want ensure they get a good ROI so they ensure their cars are seen and seen winning. yes factors are a bit skewed..ok, a lot skewed, but since jumping back in, ford has continually made more and more racing parts available. Heck look at the street cars, as soon as chev announced that the 2012 camaro will be 550hp to beat the gt500's 525hp...ford announced the 2013 gt500 will have 600hp! That's 600HP!!!! With a warranty!! Available at any dealership!!! Is the HP war on again? HELL YEAH! Chev has a 397hp diesel, ford puts out a 400hp. It's crazy. You want to buy a drag car from the factory? Done. You want to buy a body in white to build a dragcar? Done. You want to buy the latest/greatest engine available? Done. Yes heads up sucks if they're in the other lane. I feel for ya. It's not the racers fault for having a car that is slowly becoming obsolete. It's also not the racers fault for wanting to race a new car. Yes it is the *HRA's and the manufacturer's "fault", but look at it from their side for once and not only your own side. Would you dump massive amount of time money and effort into something knowing that the only area you didn't put 100% was where it would count the most to get a ROI? Of course not. At least they didn't just update the cutoff year! How much crying would there be if they said "20 year old cars maximum"? The guide would start in 1990. I'm just saying, it's not good, but it could be a hell of a lot worse. (I thought this was going to be shorter??)

03-19-2011, 12:59 AM	#29
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock I think most would have no problem if the factory was behind people racing the cars that are on the lot with the motors that came with them. Not special built engines that do not come in the street version. It is just a slap in the face when they get a pumped up version of the street engine and it is rated well below the street versions HP numbers.

03-19-2011, 12:21 PM	#30
Steve Sullivan Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Chester Posts: 67 Likes: 28 Liked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock Quote: How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***! Thank you Sean Cour!!! About time somebody told that bloviating gas bag to shut up. Mr. Bell needs to get a life. He seems to spend most of his miserable existence being a derisive wet blanket, here and on the H.A.M.B. He and quite a few other douchebags on here are why many more people don't participate on this forum. Between the continual bitching and talk radio politics it's not somewhere you would want to go for any intelligent discussion about Stock/Superstock racing!!!.