Black Tuesday?

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Paul Precht

Hi Mark, Although we had frequent S/SS races out on Long Island in the seventies, 90% of the time I bracket raced. Hampton raced until the Sunday before Christmas and reopened the Saturday after New Years Day. National would start the Tuesday night racing near the end of Jan and run until the end of Nov. . I raced every Tues, Sat and Sun with rare exception, close to 48 weeks a year, it was my life and nothing else mattered, honest. Back then I would think nothing of getting home from the track saturday eve and stay up all night just to try another motor, get to the track the next morning and start it there for the first time. My friends would go out partying on Fri night and I would be in the driveway changing the cam or heads just to see what I could gain. My mother couldn't believe I left the house one rainy Sun morn with the race car hooked up. She said you cant race in the rain, I said maybe it's not rainig there, it wasn't. Back then Hampton was 5 dollars on Sat and 6 on Sun to race. Tues night at National was 10 dollars. The farthest under I went at a Nat event E Town was .57 and NE Drag .62 under. Considering the mild state of tune the engine was in and the stock Pushbutton trans, I think it ran quite respectable, and once again every single inch of it was built and machined by me, Paul

Paul,

As you know and as a bit of History for the younger ones out there, ATCO used to run fri., sat., and sun......wed. for grudge races. It was that way all along the East coast and that kiddies is how you run 100 or more times per year!

JimR

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

They're mad at the slow guys because they don't spend enough money to be in the clique

This is pretty much the truth. I had a few racers express how they were displeased with our car running -0.57 at the President's Cup and -0.45 at the World Finals with a junkyard motor.

Those racers and threads like this are the main reason I stopped frequenting this site.

But guess what.... My shoe polish still works pretty well!

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by LNorton

This is pretty much the truth. I had a few racers express how they were displeased with our car running -0.57 at the President's Cup and -0.45 at the World Finals with a junkyard motor.

Those racers and threads like this are the main reason I stopped frequenting this site.

But guess what.... My shoe polish still works pretty well!

BIG MONEY= BIG NUMBERS /Little money= little numbers / Little money + hard work= almost big numbers. You get what you pay for , i just didn't pay a lot. lol

[Herbie Null]

Bryan, if me and you are the money crowd then can you give me a loan lol, holla

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Thats why I dont watch it anymore, there was a time when ANYONE could run Nascar or Indy.....those days are gone, Drag Racing is one of the few sports a REAL "Dark Horse" can make a mark.

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

FWIW - NHRA allows anybody to BUY their way into a class, Funny Car on down. If you can buy the parts, pass a licensing test, your in where ever your wallet allows you to be. At least NASCAR, Indy racing, F1, etc requires you prove yourself by moving up and through the ranks.

Back on topic: .500 index reduction would have been fine with me.

Paul Precht - no excuses are necessary.

[Jimi B]

Originally Posted by drooze

Thats why I dont watch it anymore, there was a time when ANYONE could run Nascar or Indy.....those days are gone, Drag Racing is one of the few sports a REAL "Dark Horse" can make a mark.

I agree. Especially these days. With the lack of sponsorship out there, some of the big guys arent making it, and some of the independently wealthy guys that have held on to there loot can get in there and do some damage. I know cubic dollars are an enemy in this thread, but you cant be mad at people for having money. It still amazes me every time I see some sportsman racer I have never even heard of qualifying in any of the pro classes.

[wagonboy]

Michael Beard for president. Jody as vice pres. I am new on here, and new to stock. I have been racing for over 15 years and have wanted a stocker for forever and a day. I finally have one, it does not run under yet,but I am working on it, and it will, even if the index drops.

Here is what I gather from reading all this.

If you are not fast but can drive your *** off, the go fast guys don't like it.

Not all the fast guys/gals feel this way, but why not encourage participation. Who cares how much effort it takes to get at or under the index now, it still takes a bit of work and money even to get .2 under. There are people willing to jump in, but how "hard" do you want to make it. Get car counts up and s/ss healthy, then tweak the rules.

If I had to get 1 second under for index, I would work until I was there, of course I would be 89 years old, senile, wearing a diaper and not racing. I don't see how prolonging the ability for people to get started in the class can benefit the class. Maybe it will keep the prestige, but what is prestigious about a dying class. How prestigious will it be when it is gone ?

Nice to meet all of you.

Ryan Smith - 723R

[GTX JOHN]

Good post and spot on Wagon Boy!!! We run an old Dodge Pickup and an old Wagon and I think we have as much fun as anybody with their big dollar stuff!!!

[Curt Rees]

Ryan Smith for President, 2012.

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Curt Rees

[Dale Shannon]

wagon boy, you say you havebeen racing for 15yrs? I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under.Times have changed over the years, just maybe everybody can't run stock and super stock anymore.