Fixing National Event Sportsman Quotas

Markeracer · 11-27-2023, 10:00 PM

Luke and Jed present an interesting idea to “fix” National event quotas. Listen in….fast forward to about 27:00 minutes.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000636399467

partsbob67 · 11-28-2023, 09:35 PM

it leaves 5 races with no divisonals. 2- pomona, 2 charlotte, and sonoma.

Mike Fuller · 11-28-2023, 10:41 PM

Changing the index for the Super categories would help in a number of ways. The spectators hate the stop and go cars, They don't like watching it.
They vacate the stands when they are on the track. Reducing their index will also speed up the program.

1320racer · 11-29-2023, 07:59 AM

the spectators at a National event hate every class, every car except the Nitro Cars! They don't watch any of them. They vacate the stands when anything is on the track but the Nitro cars.

BIGG18c · 11-29-2023, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

the spectators at a National event hate every class, every car except the Nitro Cars! They don't watch any of them. They vacate the stands when anything is on the track but the Nitro cars.

I have been going to the Brainerd National every year since 2007 and this couldn't be more true. People will not even stick around for Pro Stock anymore...

Mark Yacavone · 11-29-2023, 10:42 AM

One of the few exceptions is for S/SS day at Indy, when the 50 or so real car fans come out.

larrylomascolo · 12-02-2023, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

the spectators at a National event hate every class, every car except the Nitro Cars! They don't watch any of them. They vacate the stands when anything is on the track but the Nitro cars.

thats when i leave stands

1320racer · 12-02-2023, 08:43 AM

this isn't about you/us, we are sportsman/class racers not spectators, that wouldn't be there if not for competing at the event.

1320racer · 11-29-2023, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Fuller

Changing the index for the Super categories would help in a number of ways.

As much as I'd like to see the indexes changes if for no other reason to better reflect what these cars can actually run today as opposed to what they could run decades ago when these classes were formed, it's not going to happen and will not "help" in any way because the vocal minority, mostly old men that run these classes are afraid they won't be as competitive when the truth is most of them aren't competitive now and it's not due to their car/power.

Mark Yacavone · 11-29-2023, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

As much as I'd like to see the indexes changes if for no other reason to better reflect what these cars can actually run today as opposed to what they could run decades ago when these classes were formed, it's not going to happen and will not "help" in any way because the vocal minority, mostly old men that run these classes are afraid they won't be as competitive when the truth is most of them aren't competitive now and it's not due to their car/power.

Ed, I'm getting worried..Agreeing too much with you lately LOL

11-27-2023, 10:00 PM	#1
Markeracer Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 76 Likes: 10 Liked 67 Times in 28 Posts	Fixing National Event Sportsman Quotas Luke and Jed present an interesting idea to “fix” National event quotas. Listen in….fast forward to about 27:00 minutes. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000636399467

11-28-2023, 09:35 PM	#2
partsbob67 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: rohnert park,ca Posts: 414 Likes: 11 Liked 79 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Fixing National Event Sportsman Quotas it leaves 5 races with no divisonals. 2- pomona, 2 charlotte, and sonoma. __________________ bob beals 7244

11-28-2023, 10:41 PM	#3
Mike Fuller Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 951 Likes: 561 Liked 198 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Fixing National Event Sportsman Quotas Changing the index for the Super categories would help in a number of ways. The spectators hate the stop and go cars, They don't like watching it. They vacate the stands when they are on the track. Reducing their index will also speed up the program. __________________ Mike Fuller 396 STK 3961 SS

11-29-2023, 07:59 AM	#4
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Fixing National Event Sportsman Quotas the spectators at a National event hate every class, every car except the Nitro Cars! They don't watch any of them. They vacate the stands when anything is on the track but the Nitro cars.

11-29-2023, 10:42 AM	#6
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,815 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,120 Times in 1,951 Posts	Re: Fixing National Event Sportsman Quotas One of the few exceptions is for S/SS day at Indy, when the 50 or so real car fans come out. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

12-02-2023, 08:43 AM	#8
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Fixing National Event Sportsman Quotas this isn't about you/us, we are sportsman/class racers not spectators, that wouldn't be there if not for competing at the event. Last edited by 1320racer; 12-02-2023 at 08:47 AM.