The Future Of Stock

Ken Miele · 04-16-2017, 04:56 PM

Evan Smith wrote an interesting article on the future of Stock. Its interesting and maybe a little controversial. Leave a comment and lets us know what you think.

http://classracer.com/magazine/?p=6037

Bruce Noland · 04-16-2017, 05:53 PM

Will the folks paying $30,000.00 to $40,000.00 for a 396/375 Stocker motor please speak up. Hybrid Stock is DOA!

House of Darts · 04-16-2017, 06:28 PM

Sounds like crate motor might come back and now with NHRA. CM is a cheap fix.Who doesn't want the flexibility of a 750 or 850 Holley with a choke. Aftermarket aluminum intakes and reasonable cam profiles. The only pricey item is the required pistons and that can be changed.Ken, I had a legal CM motor that I drove on the street for a whole summer. Put it on the turnpike and raced it at the Grove. Only problem that I had was the EZ Pass fell off, probably after a nice 10" wheel stand, and I got gigged by PennDot the next month. Easy to accrue parts and a fair amount of flexibility.

BRETV · 04-16-2017, 08:24 PM

Why make more classes when NHRA keeps lowering the quotas for Natl's?? Stock is one of the most populated classes. I think we need to move the Factory cars to Comp and combine sticks and autos and have less classes. I've been around stock and superstock for 40 years and I can't even keep up with all the classes. So how can a newbie?? Less is more!!

Bret Velde
2003 SS/LA

Gary Smith · 04-17-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BRETV

Why make more classes when NHRA keeps lowering the quotas for Natl's?? Stock is one of the most populated classes. I think we need to move the Factory cars to Comp and combine sticks and autos and have less classes. I've been around stock and superstock for 40 years and I can't even keep up with all the classes. So how can a newbie?? Less is more!!

Bret Velde
2003 SS/LA

Very good point.

Bill Diehl · 04-17-2017, 04:24 PM

Get the indexes as close to what the ***** actually runs...then they would be lucky to fill the 65 field..a newb can never figure this cluster out...and I can't even begin to imagine guys complaining about how much it costs to build a top shelf "stocker" when they pulling it to the track in a 1/2 million dollar rig.

what the h am I missing?...I hope its still here by the time I get my junk out there

There is only 3 things I care about....what's my car weigh, what class does it fit in, and what's the national record

rick winchester · 04-16-2017, 08:34 PM

Already done,its called Pro ET.

04-16-2017, 09:08 PM

I like combining sticks and auto's. Maybe 1 pound weight breaks. Not sure about the crate motors. Not sure about GT stock.

The guys for the crate motors think it will be cheaper are in for a rude awaking. Guys will spend money on crates and the guys racing engines as purchased will be complaining about money and cheating. What ever happens to stock will happen.

With the top brass running the ship a ground and taking as much money as they can before it happens this sport is not long for extinction. Like some of the guys I work with, all they are worried about is retirement and nothing after.

HR9121 · 04-16-2017, 09:16 PM

^^^^^^^ What Todd said and maybe move the Factory Shootout cars to Comp.

David Lee · 04-16-2017, 09:20 PM

i have no problem with any of his suggestions. I would actually add a pure stock section.

04-16-2017, 04:56 PM	#1
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,819 Likes: 450 Liked 16,180 Times in 1,480 Posts	The Future Of Stock Evan Smith wrote an interesting article on the future of Stock. Its interesting and maybe a little controversial. Leave a comment and lets us know what you think. http://classracer.com/magazine/?p=6037

04-16-2017, 05:53 PM	#2
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: The Future Of Stock Will the folks paying $30,000.00 to $40,000.00 for a 396/375 Stocker motor please speak up. Hybrid Stock is DOA! __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

04-16-2017, 06:28 PM	#3
House of Darts Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 346 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Re: The Future Of Stock Sounds like crate motor might come back and now with NHRA. CM is a cheap fix.Who doesn't want the flexibility of a 750 or 850 Holley with a choke. Aftermarket aluminum intakes and reasonable cam profiles. The only pricey item is the required pistons and that can be changed.Ken, I had a legal CM motor that I drove on the street for a whole summer. Put it on the turnpike and raced it at the Grove. Only problem that I had was the EZ Pass fell off, probably after a nice 10" wheel stand, and I got gigged by PennDot the next month. Easy to accrue parts and a fair amount of flexibility.

04-16-2017, 08:24 PM	#4
BRETV Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 548 Likes: 4,018 Liked 736 Times in 186 Posts	Re: The Future Of Stock Why make more classes when NHRA keeps lowering the quotas for Natl's?? Stock is one of the most populated classes. I think we need to move the Factory cars to Comp and combine sticks and autos and have less classes. I've been around stock and superstock for 40 years and I can't even keep up with all the classes. So how can a newbie?? Less is more!! Bret Velde 2003 SS/LA

04-17-2017, 04:24 PM	#6
Bill Diehl Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 311 Likes: 2 Liked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: The Future Of Stock Get the indexes as close to what the ***** actually runs...then they would be lucky to fill the 65 field..a newb can never figure this cluster out...and I can't even begin to imagine guys complaining about how much it costs to build a top shelf "stocker" when they pulling it to the track in a 1/2 million dollar rig. what the h am I missing?...I hope its still here by the time I get my junk out there There is only 3 things I care about....what's my car weigh, what class does it fit in, and what's the national record __________________ __________________ Bill Diehl B200 C/D STK Last edited by Bill Diehl; 04-17-2017 at 04:33 PM.

04-16-2017, 08:34 PM	#7
rick winchester Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: cincinnati ohio Posts: 208 Likes: 275 Liked 195 Times in 33 Posts	Re: The Future Of Stock Already done,its called Pro ET. __________________ Rick Winchester Stk 3277

04-16-2017, 09:08 PM	#8
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Future Of Stock I like combining sticks and auto's. Maybe 1 pound weight breaks. Not sure about the crate motors. Not sure about GT stock. The guys for the crate motors think it will be cheaper are in for a rude awaking. Guys will spend money on crates and the guys racing engines as purchased will be complaining about money and cheating. What ever happens to stock will happen. With the top brass running the ship a ground and taking as much money as they can before it happens this sport is not long for extinction. Like some of the guys I work with, all they are worried about is retirement and nothing after.

04-16-2017, 09:16 PM	#9
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: The Future Of Stock ^^^^^^^ What Todd said and maybe move the Factory Shootout cars to Comp. __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

04-16-2017, 09:20 PM	#10
David Lee VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,168 Likes: 487 Liked 346 Times in 126 Posts	Re: The Future Of Stock i have no problem with any of his suggestions. I would actually add a pure stock section.