How would you fix the ahfs

[Larry Hill]

1. Look at the weight of the cars at the scales and use 100 lbs heavy = .1 subtracted from run, 80 lbs .08 subtracted from run.

2. Use 1/8 mile info E.T. and MPH to help stop the sandbaging

3. Two hits of -1.00 under, automatic hp on Monday, the average just does not work. I.e. 396 /375

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

1. Look at the weight of the cars at the scales and use 100 lbs heavy = .1 subtracted from run, 80 lbs .08 subtracted from run.

2. Use 1/8 mile info E.T. and MPH to help stop the sandbaging

3. Two hits of -1.00 under, automatic hp on Monday, the adverage just does not work. I.e. 396 /375

1)Wrong........That means you'll be penalized for not weighing exactly your minimum.What do you do about scale fluctuations.I always try to be about 30 # over to make up for scale error.So I get penalized for not taking a chance of scaling light?Think you can get through a race weighing at minimum without being bounced for being light?

2)Wrong.......I'm not a rocket scientist but there is no firm formula for a cars performance at the 1/8th mile.

3)I'm not sure of that.

Larry you need better arguments for the inequities in the AHFS.

[greg fulk]

I think this AHFS need to not be computer driven... I think weather conditions/track conditions need to come into affect. Also I think if someone runs quick enough to get Hp # 1) take them apart to make sure their legal & 2) hit just that car.... as in if it's an 80 Corvette that get's it hit don't hit everything with just that piston in it! ( read 73-81 350 dish motors) We all know these new cars are fast.....But I think if we leave them run they will beat each other up soon ....just like the LT1 & LS F body cars. ( they may have put FI & Carb cars back together to soon?)

[Andrew Hill]

Use common sense to fix underrated combos

[Travis Miller]

Let's try this idea.

If an engine combination hits the -1.20 or more under the index twice during a season, NHRA shall then have the right to set the refactored horsepower on that engine combination anywhere it deems necessary.

Example...the 1st time engine XYZ is rated at 345 and goes -1.22, it gets 12 horsepower making it 357. Two weeks later it goes -1.25 under. It is clear after the 2nd time that the horsepower is still wrong. NHRA calculates that the horsepower needs to be at 400 and refactors it there. This would eliminate any lengthy time span in getting the horsepower corrected.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer; Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

[RPinoski1]

Hi Guys,

I vote for putting all the combos Back to the factory HP ratings...lol

Imagine 66-67 327 275/275 etc.... and let the AHFS fix it!

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by Travis Miller

Let's try this idea.

If an engine combination hits the -1.20 or more under the index twice during a season, NHRA shall then have the right to set the refactored horsepower on that engine combination anywhere it deems necessary.

Example...the 1st time engine XYZ is rated at 345 and goes -1.22, it gets 12 horsepower making it 357. Two weeks later it goes -1.25 under. It is clear after the 2nd time that the horsepower is still wrong. NHRA calculates that the horsepower needs to be at 400 and refactors it there. This would eliminate any lengthy time span in getting the horsepower corrected.

Travis Miller
(Disclaimer; Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Travis this would never work. You would have the same people doing the refiguring that looked at a 300hp factory rated motor added a bigger throttle body ported heads and rated it at 235hp. Do you really think they are going to fix any thing?

[1reddago]

There is only one way to fix the problem and that is to put the right man in charge . The man for the job would be the one who has all the runs and times .Now there is only one man I can think of and that would be Nitro Joe .Nitro Joe seems to have all of the runs and times from all of the races . Just check out his Stat Book and see. Nitro Joe has been doing this for a long time and who do you think did it for NHRA before now ,Thats Right it was Nitro Joe .I think some one in NHRA either had it in for him or they thought they could do a better job . WELL LOOK THEY ARE NOT just my too cents

[Stocker 2]

Originally Posted by 1reddago

:Nitro Joe seems to have all of the runs and times from all of the races .

Nitro Joe gets the info directly from NHRA.

In the past it was Wesley who kept all the data straight. That is until NHRA decided someone else could do it cheaper in-house.

[Travis Miller]

Originally Posted by novassdude

Travis this would never work. You would have the same people doing the refiguring that looked at a 300hp factory rated motor added a bigger throttle body ported heads and rated it at 235hp. Do you really think they are going to fix any thing?

So you are saying that with an amendment to the AHFS rules and given the chance to correct proven under-rated horsepowers, they would not do so?