perfect reason to get tree fixed

Casey Miles · 02-25-2011, 03:32 PM

Here are 2 races that if the tree had been set for true wins, second car wouldn't automatically get the win

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
7025 Gerald Stein 5717 Bobby DeArmond
E1 -0.007 10.876 120.21 ****WINNER**** -0.011 10.029 130.64
D/SA Dial: 10.89 (+/-): -0.014 A/SA Dial: 10.07 (+/-): -0.041
Qualified: #37 10.850 -0.700 #5 10.050 -0.950

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
7240 Kayla Mozeris 6111 Mary Ann Method
E1 -0.005 11.600 113.76 ****WINNER**** -0.477 10.632 123.05
J/SA Dial: 11.56 (+/-): 0.040 C/SA Dial: 10.71 (+/-): -0.078
Qualified: #7 11.560 -0.890 #39 10.714 -0.686

hadtobethere · 02-25-2011, 03:49 PM

NOPE....first or worse, the way it should be. If you think there is an advantage having the faster car, then that is what you should race.....everyone knows what the rules are.

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles

Here are 2 races that if the tree had been set for true wins, second car wouldn't automatically get the win

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
7025 Gerald Stein 5717 Bobby DeArmond
E1 -0.007 10.876 120.21 ****WINNER**** -0.011 10.029 130.64
D/SA Dial: 10.89 (+/-): -0.014 A/SA Dial: 10.07 (+/-): -0.041
Qualified: #37 10.850 -0.700 #5 10.050 -0.950

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
7240 Kayla Mozeris 6111 Mary Ann Method
E1 -0.005 11.600 113.76 ****WINNER**** -0.477 10.632 123.05
J/SA Dial: 11.56 (+/-): 0.040 C/SA Dial: 10.71 (+/-): -0.078
Qualified: #7 11.560 -0.890 #39 10.714 -0.686

Mark Yacavone · 02-25-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hadtobethere

NOPE....first or worse, the way it should be. If you think there is an advantage having the faster car, then that is what you should race.....everyone knows what the rules are.

hardtobeanywhere, Define "worse" please.

Ed Wright, Try that when you give up a tenth spot.

danny waters sr · 02-25-2011, 06:06 PM

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Since this isn't such a good topic, lets add no reaction times or increments down track.
Casey Miles
Why would you want to do that ? would'nt that be like "old Drag racing" ? Leave it alone ,there is a lot more to worry about than re- inventing drag racing!!!!!

hadtobethere · 02-25-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

hardtobeanywhere, Define "worse" please.

As I crossed the center line and hit the wall, I feel 'worse' than the guy that just redlighted against me......

Dale Hulquist · 02-25-2011, 07:04 PM

This very thing happened to me last weekend. And if i had been green i would have won . It's my fault i went red PERIOD! Why change anything butt, the amount of time we practice. Why do some (,that wen't in that race ) feel the need to change anything. Practice more complain less.

Ernie Neal · 02-25-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by D Hulquist

This very thing happened to me last weekend. And if i had been green i would have won . It's my fault i went red PERIOD! Why change anything butt, the amount of time we practice. Why do some (,that wen't in that race ) feel the need to change anything. Practice more complain less.

Dale, you said it all. Heck if I was planning on a red light I would've stayed at home. But we all know it's a possibility.
Ernie Neal

K Stubbs · 02-25-2011, 09:46 PM

I personally think that if you are going to care enough to complaine about this issue, then you arent going to win many races anyway. Redlights dont win.

Mark Yacavone · 02-25-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hadtobethere

As I crossed the center line and hit the wall, I feel 'worse' than the guy that just redlighted against me......

Okay....and just how does that relate to this debate?

Bunkster · 02-25-2011, 08:47 PM

NHRA, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. To allow this lunacy of “first or worst” foul start during handicap racing to continue is borderline criminal.

You may as well alter pro racing to this: The only foul starts that count during any pro race, where both cars leave at the same time, is when the lower qualified car red lights. This would make about as much sense.

It is time to fix this to THE WORST RED LIGHT IN EVERY RACE, WHETHER HEADS UP OR HANDICAP, IS THE LOSER.

Anything less is nothing more than welfare and favoritism to faster cars.

02-25-2011, 03:32 PM	#1
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 127 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	perfect reason to get tree fixed Here are 2 races that if the tree had been set for true wins, second car wouldn't automatically get the win Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed 7025 Gerald Stein 5717 Bobby DeArmond E1 -0.007 10.876 120.21 **WINNER -0.011 10.029 130.64 D/SA Dial: 10.89 (+/-): -0.014 A/SA Dial: 10.07 (+/-): -0.041 Qualified: #37 10.850 -0.700 #5 10.050 -0.950 Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed 7240 Kayla Mozeris 6111 Mary Ann Method E1 -0.005 11.600 113.76 WINNER** -0.477 10.632 123.05 J/SA Dial: 11.56 (+/-): 0.040 C/SA Dial: 10.71 (+/-): -0.078 Qualified: #7 11.560 -0.890 #39 10.714 -0.686 Last edited by Casey Miles; 02-25-2011 at 03:37 PM. Reason: grammar

02-25-2011, 06:06 PM	#4
danny waters sr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: lagrange,nc Posts: 2,224 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed " Quote " Since this isn't such a good topic, lets add no reaction times or increments down track. Casey Miles Why would you want to do that ? would'nt that be like "old Drag racing" ? Leave it alone ,there is a lot more to worry about than re- inventing drag racing!!!!! __________________ Danny Waters, Sr / 73 Duster "340"

02-25-2011, 07:04 PM	#6
Dale Hulquist Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Crosby Texas Posts: 440 Likes: 600 Liked 351 Times in 76 Posts	Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed This very thing happened to me last weekend. And if i had been green i would have won . It's my fault i went red PERIOD! Why change anything butt, the amount of time we practice. Why do some (,that wen't in that race ) feel the need to change anything. Practice more complain less.

02-25-2011, 09:46 PM	#8
K Stubbs Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Benton, Arkansas Posts: 402 Likes: 0 Liked 20 Times in 3 Posts	Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed I personally think that if you are going to care enough to complaine about this issue, then you arent going to win many races anyway. Redlights dont win. Last edited by K Stubbs; 02-25-2011 at 10:28 PM.

02-25-2011, 08:47 PM	#10
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed NHRA, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. To allow this lunacy of “first or worst” foul start during handicap racing to continue is borderline criminal. You may as well alter pro racing to this: The only foul starts that count during any pro race, where both cars leave at the same time, is when the lower qualified car red lights. This would make about as much sense. It is time to fix this to THE WORST RED LIGHT IN EVERY RACE, WHETHER HEADS UP OR HANDICAP, IS THE LOSER. Anything less is nothing more than welfare and favoritism to faster cars.