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Old 03-14-2010, 09:17 AM   #1
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Default 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S

anyone want to stand up and say these cars are good for the sport now? 1.32 under the new index. that would be 1.62 under the old index.
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:24 AM   #2
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OK - For once make believe your cup is half full -- tomorrow he will get horsepower added on -- somedays the system does work -- today is one of them ! ! ! ! ! !

BTW , nice 10.99 run by Evan Smith in his "Old School" 5-OH .........he's Avis again .
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:26 AM   #3
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OK - For once make believe your cup is half full -- tomorrow he will get horsepower added on -- somedays the system does work -- today is one of them ! ! ! ! ! !
jack, you have a good point. however how many times will these cars have to get hit to make things fair?
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:36 AM   #4
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Chad -- Egos being what they are these CJ drivers will continue to try and be #1 and it might take awhile but it always catches up .........always ! !
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:37 AM   #5
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jack, you have a good point. however how many times will these cars have to get hit to make things fair?
If my feeble calculations are close to correct, one more hit like this one will bring the 2008 cars to the brink of extinction in Stock. It appears that this will put them at about 453 horsepower and at a break of 7.14. When they reach 6.99 horsepower per pound, we'll find out how serious NHRA is about leveling the playing field. Of course, there's always the option available to the Competition Committee to hit them with an index penalty instead of a horsepower adjustment the way they have done in the case of the SS/AH cars. Another .15 on the index of A/S would be a piece of cake for the '08 Mustangs.
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Unless Fezell is in a convertible, the 08 Mustang does not fit A/S class. The coupe HP to weight ratio is 7.38 which means it has to add weight to fit the minimum weight break of 7.50 for AA/S. NHRA allows the addition or removal of weight to go up or down 1 class, not 2. I hope that Fezell teched the car as a AA/S and it is just a recording error that the car is in A/S. If he teched it in as A/S, we have another Bogacki, McClanahan mistake, unless he is a convertible.

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Unless Fezell is in a convertible, the 08 Mustang does not fit A/S class. The coupe HP to weight ratio is 7.38 which means it has to add weight to fit the minimum weight break of 7.50 for AA/S. NHRA allows the addition or removal of weight to go up or down 1 class, not 2. I hope that Fezell teched the car as a AA/S and it is just a recording error that the car is in A/S. If he teched it in as A/S, we have another Bogacki, McClanahan mistake, unless he is a convertible.

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never mind, it appears the car is a coupe judging by auto imagery
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that is a pretty stout run..
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:00 PM   #9
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I'm not griping about the new Mustangs even though it's made my Max Wedge obsolete before I finish it, but I have a question.

In the past the NHRA has moved special cars like these straight into SS due to there limited availability and the fact that they were not available for the street ie: '68 Hemi cars, A990 Mopars, '64 aluminum Hemi cars, etc. Specialty built cars went to SS, so why is this instance different?

Here's something to ponder, forget about the fact that the following cars don't fit the Stock weights, but what would happen if they let the '65 A990 Hemi cars into Stock along with the same '64 aluminum Hemi cars? Would they even be competitive against the blown Mustangs?

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Old 03-14-2010, 03:31 PM   #10
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In the past the NHRA has moved special cars like these straight into SS due to there limited availability and the fact that they were not available for the street ie: '68 Hemi cars, A990 Mopars, '64 aluminum Hemi cars, etc. Specialty built cars went to SS, so why is this instance different? However, now that the "Big Fish" may be under attack, attitudes seem to have changed.


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Jim, I`m pretty sure the reason that the 68 Hemi Darts & Cudas, 64 Hemi cars etc were in S/S rather than Stock was not due to them being purpose built, non street duty cars, but rather simply the NHRA HP/weight factor. Since NHRA opened up the AA/S & SA classes for cars that would have been previously factored "too low" for A, ie under 8lbs per HP, that opened up the possibility for the "new" race package" cars, as well as some older cars that were under the 8 lb thresh hold, like the 64 Ford Fairlane ThunderBolt, and the 427 2x4 barrel 66-67 Fairlanes, as well as several others from Mopar & GM, I believe. As for the seperate "forced induction" classes some are asking for, nobody seemed to get bent out of shape when the FWD Turbo MoPars were always qualifying at the top in Stock, maybe because these "lower class" cars didn`t concern most of the upper class racers, and due to inconsistancy, didn`t prove to be a major threat once eliminations were under way.
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