65-85 under.

Kdw1403 · 12-20-2022, 08:12 PM

I know that runs under 65 under will no longer be counted in class averages but what does over 84.9 under get you?

Doug Hoven · 12-20-2022, 09:31 PM

If you were to trigger your combinations enough times for it to qualify for a "review" at the end of the year, there will be a horsepower increase if your average is faster than .849 under the index.

Kdw1403 · 12-20-2022, 09:36 PM

Well that sucks. Am I correct in assuming lots of people will be running slower than they used to on purpose?

Kdw1403 · 12-20-2022, 09:53 PM

How many runs over 84.9 under trigger a review?

1347 · 12-20-2022, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdw1403

How many runs over 84.9 under trigger a review?

none, it has to be 2 of 1.00 or more, until it gets to 1.300

SDT1DYI · 12-20-2022, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdw1403

Well that sucks. Am I correct in assuming lots of people will be running slower than they used to on purpose?

I would expect there will be a lot of discussions in the Lanes before Heads up runs about running to 1,000 ft. The Q sheet will seldom see a 1.0 under #1 qualifer. There will be a bunch seperated by only a couple of thou in the 849 to 825 range.
Calling Stock Eliminator a performance class is in question with these changes.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

Billy Nees · 12-21-2022, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SDT1DYI

Calling Stock Eliminator a performance class is in question with these changes.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

Calling Stock Eliminator "Stock Eliminator" is in question also with all of the changes.

GUMP · 12-21-2022, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Calling Stock Eliminator "Stock Eliminator" is in question also with all of the changes.

Alas, it's all we have!

Mike Pearson · 12-21-2022, 09:37 AM

lots of racers have been asking for the AHFS to be changed. Now there is a change. You can still run as fast as you want. You just have to pay the price with a HP hit if you go too fast. I think this is a better situation than lowering the indexes across the board again. I am not sure why the runs under .65 do not count toward the average. All runs except aborted or incomplete runs should be counted.
People complain all the time about 1000 ft racing. Run your cars all out and take the hit and then you can run the full 1/4 mile. Might take a few hits for some combos. People have been playing the game so long that they have gotten used to it as the norm.

SDT1DYI · 12-21-2022, 10:20 AM

So work on your combo , spend more $ to run faster and get a HP hit for your hard work and lighter wallet? The logic does not work. Why would any one do
this?
Yes the rules have gotten out of hand with what Stock was originally about but there the current rules. Change them to what everyone thinks is best then hire qualified tech inspectors to enforce rules, but Penalizing HP because of your NHRA rules is not the best way to equalize the playing field. (If that's NHRAs goal here).
I would be in favor of a personal index adjustment in heads up situations to level the field.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

12-20-2022, 09:31 PM	#2
Doug Hoven Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jersey Posts: 209 Likes: 189 Liked 807 Times in 160 Posts	Re: 65-85 under. If you were to trigger your combinations enough times for it to qualify for a "review" at the end of the year, there will be a horsepower increase if your average is faster than .849 under the index. __________________ 1189 F/SA Defunzalo Racing Enterprises

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Kdw1403 Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 202 Likes: 47 Liked 68 Times in 22 Posts	Re: 65-85 under. Well that sucks. Am I correct in assuming lots of people will be running slower than they used to on purpose?

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Kdw1403 Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 202 Likes: 47 Liked 68 Times in 22 Posts	Re: 65-85 under. How many runs over 84.9 under trigger a review?

12-21-2022, 09:37 AM	#9
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,419 Likes: 598 Liked 1,885 Times in 564 Posts	Re: 65-85 under. lots of racers have been asking for the AHFS to be changed. Now there is a change. You can still run as fast as you want. You just have to pay the price with a HP hit if you go too fast. I think this is a better situation than lowering the indexes across the board again. I am not sure why the runs under .65 do not count toward the average. All runs except aborted or incomplete runs should be counted. People complain all the time about 1000 ft racing. Run your cars all out and take the hit and then you can run the full 1/4 mile. Might take a few hits for some combos. People have been playing the game so long that they have gotten used to it as the norm. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

12-21-2022, 10:20 AM	#10
SDT1DYI Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Indianola Washington Posts: 396 Likes: 0 Liked 450 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 65-85 under. So work on your combo , spend more $ to run faster and get a HP hit for your hard work and lighter wallet? The logic does not work. Why would any one do this? Yes the rules have gotten out of hand with what Stock was originally about but there the current rules. Change them to what everyone thinks is best then hire qualified tech inspectors to enforce rules, but Penalizing HP because of your NHRA rules is not the best way to equalize the playing field. (If that's NHRAs goal here). I would be in favor of a personal index adjustment in heads up situations to level the field. Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

12-20-2022, 08:12 PM	#1
Kdw1403 Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 202 Likes: 47 Liked 68 Times in 22 Posts	65-85 under. I know that runs under 65 under will no longer be counted in class averages but what does over 84.9 under get you?