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MR DERBY CITY 02-26-2024 12:15 AM

Att..Stock Elim 305 flat top Q jet racers
 
With the start of the 2024 racing season , NOW would be a great time for SOME of you guys to Familiarize yourself with the current AHFS rules …Let MJ offer you a few tips…If you are in a heads up run and have your opponent treed by .05 AND can outrun him by TWO tenths, it’s OK to let off before the finish line. ALSO, if you OR your opponent red lights, it’s OK to let off at the 1000 foot cone INSTEAD of hammering ANOTHER one second under run ….:):)

Dan Fletcher 02-26-2024 09:25 AM

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Isn't this where someone is supposed to say "that person works hard, probably harder than you, you need to work harder, if it's that fast it needs hp anyways, he's a nice guy, it's his car, he's racing like you're supposed to race, he's free to piss on his own shoes (and yours) for no good reason if he wants to"...

MR DERBY CITY 02-26-2024 09:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher (Post 694199)
Isn't this where someone is supposed to say "that person works hard, probably harder than you, you need to work harder, if it's that fast it needs hp anyways, he's a nice guy, it's his car, he's racing like you're supposed to race, he's free to piss on his own shoes for no good reason if he wants to"...

Yes, all the above AND then my friend Larry Hill chimes in and sez…. The price of lead is going up. ….:):)

RKelliher 02-26-2024 09:46 AM

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Dan, it's not as much working hard as spending hard. a lot of racers don't have the wallet to buy all the "enhanced parts"to go fast.

Billy Nees 02-26-2024 09:52 AM

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Car shows and Pickle Ball just keep looking better and better!

JP1738 02-26-2024 10:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 694190)
With the start of the 2024 racing season , NOW would be a great time for SOME of you guys to Familiarize yourself with the current AHFS rules …Let MJ offer you a few tips…If you are in a heads up run and have your opponent treed by .05 AND can outrun him by TWO tenths, it’s OK to let off before the finish line. ALSO, if you OR your opponent red lights, it’s OK to let off at the 1000 foot cone INSTEAD of hammering ANOTHER one second under run ….:):)

Does this include my combo? Sorry, not quite familiar with all the combo lingo yet. I'm running an '80 model Malibu w/ 305 and q-jet. Y'all please don't kill my combo, I JUST got under the index. XD

JP1738 02-26-2024 10:14 AM

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Nevermind, I see that the #2 and #3 qualified cars at Belle Rose set sail with early 80s 305s. oof. I guess more power to them, just don't kill me too bad. The 305 got a ton of HP last year and it looks like they aren't done yet. Out of curiosity, the 80-84 305 camaro took a hit last year but the malibu didn't. I'm told it's all platform based, that's why I didn't get HP last year (before I finished the car mind you all). Would a malibu setting the world on fire hurt me, or only another station wagon? Would that be considered the same platform? idk how that gets decided.

Marty Buth 02-26-2024 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 694203)
Car shows and Pickle Ball just keep looking better and better!

Be sure to invite me to your first pickle ball game! lol

JIM MARSHALL 02-26-2024 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 694206)
Nevermind, I see that the #2 and #3 qualified cars at Belle Rose set sail with early 80s 305s. oof. I guess more power to them, just don't kill me too bad. The 305 got a ton of HP last year and it looks like they aren't done yet. Out of curiosity, the 80-84 305 camaro took a hit last year but the malibu didn't. I'm told it's all platform based, that's why I didn't get HP last year (before I finished the car mind you all). Would a malibu setting the world on fire hurt me, or only another station wagon? Would that be considered the same platform? idk how that gets decided.

Your Malibu wagon and Malibu coupe both have 108.1 wheel base so NHRA considers those the same platform.

The Malibu that just won Belle Rose made 6 one second under passes in K/SA and most definitely puts your combo in jeopardy.

The bad news is if your combo can’t run K/SA none of your runs will count to lower his average.

Hope this helps
Good luck this season

Mike Jones 02-26-2024 10:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 694205)
Does this include my combo? Sorry, not quite familiar with all the combo lingo yet. I'm running an '80 model Malibu w/ 305 and q-jet. Y'all please don't kill my combo, I JUST got under the index. XD

Do you have a dished piston in yours?

Justin Graham 02-26-2024 12:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 694190)
With the start of the 2024 racing season , NOW would be a great time for SOME of you guys to Familiarize yourself with the current AHFS rules …Let MJ offer you a few tips…If you are in a heads up run and have your opponent treed by .05 AND can outrun him by TWO tenths, it’s OK to let off before the finish line. ALSO, if you OR your opponent red lights, it’s OK to let off at the 1000 foot cone INSTEAD of hammering ANOTHER one second under run ….:):)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIM MARSHALL (Post 694209)
The Malibu that just won Belle Rose made 6 one second under passes in K/SA and most definitely puts your combo in jeopardy.

The bad news is if your combo can’t run K/SA none of your runs will count to lower his average. Hope this helps Good luck this season

HEY!!!….hold my beer, I’ve got this

JP1738 02-26-2024 12:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JIM MARSHALL (Post 694209)
Your Malibu wagon and Malibu coupe both have 108.1 wheel base so NHRA considers those the same platform.

The Malibu that just won Belle Rose made 6 one second under passes in K/SA and most definitely puts your combo in jeopardy.

The bad news is if your combo can’t run K/SA none of your runs will count to lower his average.

Hope this helps
Good luck this season

frick. No I can only run L/M/N, currently running N now.

JP1738 02-26-2024 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jones (Post 694210)
Do you have a dished piston in yours?

Honestly do not remember, but Mark Lewis does. Let me look on class racer info and see what my combo calls for.

JP1738 02-26-2024 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 694213)
Honestly do not remember, but Mark Lewis does. Let me look on class racer info and see what my combo calls for.

calls for dished pistons on class racer so I assume that's what I've got. Mark wouldn't put something together that wasn't right. :/

Stan Weiss 02-26-2024 12:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 694203)
Car shows and Pickle Ball just keep looking better and better!


Billy,
You do realize that they is more of a chance of getting hurt playing Pickle Ball than making runs down the track? :D


Stan

RKelliher 02-26-2024 01:19 PM

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JP1738, your engine has dish piston . Mark did my motor also. same combo as you but I run M/SA. 80 thru 84 had dish pistons

Mike Jones 02-26-2024 01:36 PM

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JP1738, you are safe... for now:)

JP1738 02-26-2024 01:59 PM

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Ok I'm still confused though. He runs a 81 Malibu 305, would that not mean he is in the same combo with me w/ dished pistons? Is there another combo not shown on class racer? How do I know he has flat top pistons and not the same combo as I? This crap is too complicated. Please somebody educate me.

Mark Yacavone 02-26-2024 02:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JIM MARSHALL (Post 694209)
Your Malibu wagon and Malibu coupe both have 108.1 wheel base so NHRA considers those the same platform.

Not necessarily, Jim
You can get hp off a Chevy wagon, through 1 800 CRY NHRA, and not have it come off a 2 dr. HT...Same wheelbase!

CJ McDonald 9564 02-26-2024 03:18 PM

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I get it. I wish everyone did.

Tony Fagnilli 02-26-2024 03:20 PM

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Don't even get me started on this topic. LOL

MR DERBY CITY 02-26-2024 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ McDonald 9564 (Post 694223)
I get it. I wish everyone did.

:):)

RKelliher 02-26-2024 04:17 PM

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JP1738 , My mistake , 81 malibu 2 dr. 305 dish motor can run J/K/L @ 13.49. factor . I was thinking of my son's , a 81 camaro 305

tstickff 02-26-2024 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 694205)
Does this include my combo? Sorry, not quite familiar with all the combo lingo yet. I'm running an '80 model Malibu w/ 305 and q-jet. Y'all please don't kill my combo, I JUST got under the index. XD

Dawson this would affect your combo, all the malibus other than the 79 combo basically lumps into the same 232 combo.

Tim Barrett 02-26-2024 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher (Post 694199)
Isn't this where someone is supposed to say "that person works hard, probably harder than you, you need to work harder, if it's that fast it needs hp anyways, he's a nice guy, it's his car, he's racing like you're supposed to race, he's free to piss on his own shoes (and yours) for no good reason if he wants to"...

Now I know another reason why you are the #1 Sportsman Dragracer!!! All those quotes we hear all season long by alot of people,,but those people will never walk in that person's shoes. There's a reason why soo many people like you win so much,,they use their heads.

James Perrone 02-26-2024 05:13 PM

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MJ.
Just change the bumper
It helped you guys last time

MR DERBY CITY 02-26-2024 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 694231)
MJ.
Just change the bumper
It helped you guys last time

I knew it, I knew it was coming. Just a matter of time. Good Luck in Gainesville Mr. MAD Hawaiian…..:):)

JGarey 02-26-2024 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 694216)
Billy,
You do realize that they is more of a chance of getting hurt playing Pickle Ball than making runs down the track? :D


Stan

Plus those pickle ball players with fat wallets have "enhanced paddles"

DG 02-26-2024 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 694216)
Billy,
You do realize that they is more of a chance of getting hurt playing Pickle Ball than making runs down the track? :D


Stan

Yep, for me knee surgery for torn menicus, shoulder surgery for torn labrum/rotator cuff and separated SI joint all from playing Pickleball. Drag racing gave me sore wrists from coming down hard on a wheelstand (bent sterring wheel) and a broken finger working on the car. Pickleball is much more risky to my health.

Jack McCarthy 02-26-2024 11:27 PM

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just worth saying .... MJ can be an imposing figure waiting at your trailer :)

mike you cant cure stupid on the class racer forum hell if you do the whole forum might disappear.

and i dont wanna discuss the wheelbase issue im in a hard to win arguement now us elcamino CARS have a seperate wheelbase and ergo are a seperate platform but a car not a truck. and i keep my 6hp and can watch the wagons fly.

capt

Mike Jones 02-27-2024 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JIM MARSHALL (Post 694209)

The Malibu that just won Belle Rose made 6 one second under passes in K/SA and most definitely puts your combo in jeopardy.

Isn`t Bob`s motor a 350?

JP1738 02-27-2024 09:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jones (Post 694245)
Isn`t Bob`s motor a 350?

He's on the sheet with a 305. Unless they have his combo wrong, which they did with a handful of cars.

JIM MARSHALL 02-27-2024 09:20 AM

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Mike the 2 door Malibu never came with a 350
Only elcamino and wagon

JP1738 02-27-2024 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstickff (Post 694229)
Dawson this would affect your combo, all the malibus other than the 79 combo basically lumps into the same 232 combo.

Frick. At least I'm not crazy. Ole boy accidentally gas lit me for a second there.

RKelliher 02-27-2024 10:01 AM

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Jim, 81 malibu, sedan ,wagon and el camino only came with 155hp 305.according to listings

Mike Jones 02-27-2024 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 694246)
He's on the sheet with a 305. Unless they have his combo wrong, which they did with a handful of cars.

11.60`s... wow...
dished piston
small cam
Have fun JP1738:)

Jon Sarrett 02-27-2024 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy (Post 694241)
just worth saying .... MJ can be an imposing figure waiting at your trailer :)

mike you cant cure stupid on the class racer forum hell if you do the whole forum might disappear.

and i dont wanna discuss the wheelbase issue im in a hard to win arguement now us elcamino CARS have a seperate wheelbase and ergo are a seperate platform but a car not a truck. and i keep my 6hp and can watch the wagons fly.

capt

MJ is a gentle giant.

MR DERBY CITY 02-27-2024 03:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Sarrett (Post 694262)
MJ is a gentle giant.

YES, he is …And don’t forget warm hearted and compassionate !!!:):)

JP1738 02-27-2024 04:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jones (Post 694257)
11.60`s... wow...
dished piston
small cam
Have fun JP1738:)

Hell I ain't trying to outrun him. I also realize when I put this combo together it was fairly popular, it doesn't surprise me people are fast and pushing the envelope with it. It's his prerogative to run his 'bu as hard as he wants. What stinks is they won't look at anything I do because I can't run his class, nor will any of my runs be fast enough for them to take into account anyway :/

I wish he'd cool it a touch but I also understand it's hard work and $$$ to get where he's at. More power to him.

Mike Jones 02-27-2024 06:20 PM

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Dawson, It looks like you were the only N Automatic at Gainsville, this past weekend. I wouldn`t think there are many, anywhere you go. Don`t worry about the HP and just have fun.
Can you explain " I need the back tire.... and maybe the brake"?
Asking for a friend:)


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