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Jakeman 01-01-2020 03:43 PM

2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
I am dealing on a 2011 Mustang V-6 auto. I want to bracket race it and possibly race stock with it. Do you think this will be competitive in stock. Not trying to set records. Just want to be competitive. Thanks any input will be appreciated.

Billy Nees 01-01-2020 07:16 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Well, I have no experience with this combo at all. THAT being said, it has LOTS of compression, LOTS of valve area, good valve lift and a good sized throttle body. It will run J-K-L so IMHO it won't be a killer at 260 HP and it won't be cheap but it should run well.

Jakeman 01-01-2020 08:36 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Thank You Mr. Nees. The factory has it at 305hp.

impstocker 01-02-2020 04:21 AM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
My Brother and I started a build on a 1997 Mustang convertible V6 for Q,R or T/SA 232 CID 150 HP NHRA rated 170 Putting together 8.8 rear with 5:13 at the moment, we believe will be able to run the index easy enough. Also using a C4 tranny. Will have to install roll bar due too rag top. Good luck with your build.

Will Lamprecht
1965 Impala G/H/I now with a stick
1997 Mustang V6

HawkBrosMav 01-02-2020 05:22 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakeman (Post 605201)
Thank You Mr. Nees. The factory has it at 305hp.

I think you are mis-taking what Billy is saying... NHRA has the HP at 260... it matters not what Ford sold the car as. With an NHRA rating of 260 Billy does not feel like it will be a rocket against the index. We all realize it probably makes more than 260 that doesn't necessarily mean it's a competitive combo compared to others.. should be okay but probably not a combo where you can go 1.00 under without considerable testing and $$.

It seems to me to be a combo much like the Foxbody we have. Can be fairly solid with enough $$ but will never be a rocket ship against the index no matter what we spend. Still a fun car and we beat it to death as a bracket car...

It's more than paid for itself bracket racing which is much more than most stock/SS cars can say.

JHeath 03-29-2020 10:48 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
If anybody wants to try this, I have a 2012 3.7 V6 engine, auto trans ,and a rear end , all out of a 2012 Mustang with 51K mileage.

goinbroke2 04-13-2020 12:29 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
I have a 3.7 in my 2011 f-150.

As a "base" six cyl pick up engine (think 300 six from years ago) this thing is a screamer!!!
If I mat it and hold, it (as well as 3 other 3.7's I tried in minivans/pick ups) it shifts at 6750rpm and after one or two gears it is hitting 7000 shift points. FROM THE FACTORY!!

It would be a labour intensive job to pull a head/etc, but I see a LOT of potential in an all aluminum, 4v per cyl, dohc engine!

I could see this flowing enough (with more duration of course) to run 8500+ in stock.
Love to hear if anyone has built one for racing. (and not the twin turbo crowd either lol)

ALMACK 08-18-2020 11:43 AM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 612147)
I have a 3.7 in my 2011 f-150.

As a "base" six cyl pick up engine (think 300 six from years ago) this thing is a screamer!!!
If I mat it and hold, it (as well as 3 other 3.7's I tried in minivans/pick ups) it shifts at 6750rpm and after one or two gears it is hitting 7000 shift points. FROM THE FACTORY!!

It would be a labour intensive job to pull a head/etc, but I see a LOT of potential in an all aluminum, 4v per cyl, dohc engine!

I could see this flowing enough (with more duration of course) to run 8500+ in stock.
Love to hear if anyone has built one for racing. (and not the twin turbo crowd either lol)

I have a 2011 3.7 Mustang and am in several 3.7 groups and forums.

From what I have read the all motor guys are hard pressed to get into the 11's without porting the intake and going with a larger throttle body.

The key with those engines is the tune to work with that variable timing.
I suppose someone could get custom cams made but I have never heard of any cam company making them.

As posted above, I do not seeing this combo qualifying competitively.
By competitive, I mean being able to qualify for the US Nationals ( -.885 under )

JHeath 10-12-2021 05:44 PM

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I noticed Steve Stickel has been running a 2011 Mustang 3.7 in M/SA at several D1 races, has run right around - .40 under, car looks good

Billy Nees 10-13-2021 07:36 AM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
I spoke to Steve this weekend at Cecil. Cool car and it will eventually be fast. He's got a lot of things to figure out yet but that happens when you're the first one out there doing a project.

Nick Heath 10-13-2021 08:50 AM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Getting to .40 under in a brand new combination that nobody has ever tried is excellent! From the MPHs I saw, it definitely has the potential to go quicker. No matter what, it's still something new and different - and new and different Stockers are way, way cool!

Mark Yacavone 10-13-2021 12:22 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
It's a shame that someone has to put a roll bar in a car like this, just to run high 12's.
NOT the way to get new blood into Stock classes.
C'mon NHRA Fix this deficiency .

Glenn Briglio 10-13-2021 12:35 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 649878)
I spoke to Steve this weekend at Cecil. Cool car and it will eventually be fast. He's got a lot of things to figure out yet but that happens when you're the first one out there doing a project.

I talked to him too at Cecil. Great to see different combo's with lots of potential. Cool ride!!!!!!

Charles Stewart 10-13-2021 01:53 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
I’m following Mr. Stickel and his M/SA Mustang for a couple of months now and I think that this combo bring new excitement, new challenge, refresh and new thrill to him and to the Stock class in general. I’m sure that the potential is there and once he figured it out it will be a force to be recognized.
I may be wrong but I see a lot of those new combos for the future for the class.
Set-up like this one and (as an example) Mr. Nees Cavalier “are more real stocker” than those 100,000 $ factory stock cars “not” available to the “normal general public”…
Dodge and Chevy are missing the parade here, ignoring those new generation of engine and people with a different vision.
Waiting to send " V6 specs to NHRA" is even not an option here...

ALMACK 12-11-2021 02:19 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Heath (Post 649890)
Getting to .40 under in a brand new combination that nobody has ever tried is excellent! From the MPHs I saw, it's definitely has the potential to go quicker. No matter what, it's still something new and different - and new and different Stockers are way, way cool!

Do you remember what the mph was ?

Dragrac419 12-12-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 653632)
Do you remember what the mph was ?

Alan,

Looking back at first round of Epping and Cecil
Epping 1st round 106.50
Epping 2nd round 106.96
Cecil 1st round 108.59

Nmbr1GMfan 12-13-2021 09:27 AM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 649905)
It's a shame that someone has to put a roll bar in a car like this, just to run high 12's.
NOT the way to get new blood into Stock classes.
C'mon NHRA Fix this deficiency .

Why would you need a roll bar in a car that's '08 or newer to run 12's?

Billy Nees 12-13-2021 09:41 AM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan (Post 653708)
Why would you need a roll bar in a car that's '08 or newer to run 12's?

Rule Book says so. Any Stocker M/S and above regardless of ET and ANY convertible.

Nmbr1GMfan 12-13-2021 10:28 AM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 653709)
Rule Book says so. Any Stocker M/S and above regardless of ET and ANY convertible.

Would they ever fall under the '08 and up 10.00 and slower rule?

Mark Yacavone 12-13-2021 02:01 PM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan (Post 653711)
Would they ever fall under the '08 and up 10.00 and slower rule?

Don't think so.
I thought the new cars had to be bone stock to use that exemption.

Nmbr1GMfan 12-16-2021 08:54 AM

Re: 2011 Mustang V-6 Auto
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 653727)
Don't think so.
I thought the new cars had to be bone stock to use that exemption.

That's how the rule was originally written, now it says factory safety equipment, air bags, ABS, DOT tires.


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