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I found the points standings but have no idea how they arrived at them. Does anyone know how they figure the points?

Thanks

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Where did you find them? Please post.
I understand it's 10 points per round, with 5 extra for the win.

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Art I found them at NHRA.com click on points/stats at top of page then click on ss/stk class points.

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Quick Simple WTF
There have only been one SS class race. And 2 stk class races. If you get 10 points for eack round of class and 5 extra for the win
How on earth did they come up with those numbers?

This is why I've sat it out so far this year.

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Art, you don't like to run eliminations? I thought that was why we all went?

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Ed do you think I pack up and leave after class?
Right now I'm in a situation that my car can do very well in the structure nhra created for the class performer. I control my own destiny as far as the ahfs is concerned. In my class if I get hit the index is changed so I don't have to worry about another car in my class gaining an advantage. Not to many regular SS or GT cars will blow their hp to win a class.

But I don't trust nhra with there changes etc.
When you get factored 8.25% when you never went fast enough to trigger a hit. By their rules at the time.
Or when you have run a final round at a national event 3 times. Maybe you will understand.

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When was your final rounds Art?
What years?

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Seattle 1980 ran final three times against Cal Queahpama.
The tower got the word we were supposed to lose to let a alcohol car win the W.R.Grace cup.

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We lost that race but it really did not matter.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa12/rt1092/0053.jpg

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You seem to think NHRA is out to screw Art Leong over, right?
Special Art Leong rules for whacking your, and nobody else's, index?
Or, that something you did back in 1980 is relevant now?

Art, you should just forget about class (They will probably change it back the same day they change the red light rule) and go race with the rest of us nut cases.
What else are you gonna do? Go fishing?

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I made over a million dollars fishing With the regs now it's kind of boring.

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i spoke to charlie from nhra at chalotte this past weekend, he explained the rules for the class points. It is not crystal clear but he told me that a class winner receives 85 points regardless of the number of rounds it takes to win class. The single class car winner recieves 80 points. you can claim points at three of your first five nationals..

they are using the lucas oil points structure, c/sa had 10 cars at charlotte and the points were awarded as follows
winner 85 points
runner up 64 points
lose in the semifinals 42 points
lose in the quarterfinals 31 points

the points structure is the same for the single car class eliminations with the exception of the bonus points

looks like there will be a number of drivers tied for the championship
the first tie breaker will be the number of class wins
the second tie breaker is head to head
charlie was not sure what the next tie breaker was
i dont think the first two will factor in at all, but we will see

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Art, I could tell that was boring without drowning one single worm. LOL

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That is nothing like they stated earlier. If you run 4 rounds you get the same amout of points as someone that ran 1?
This is exactly why I waited And I'm glad I did.

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Thank You Michael

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Ed you can't say it's boring till you have killed 3 giant tuna in one week. And had the boxed and sent to Japan.

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To each his own I guess. Some like to go hunting and kill things. May make them feel more powerful.

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Michael. Who is charlie? and how can I get hold of him?

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It made me more than feel powerful. each fish bought more than $4000

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charlie nielsen (sp?) is the man in charge of contingency and the new class structure, im sure if you call nhra they will give you his extension or email..he was very helpful and easy to talk to, he also asked that we give him feedback on the program..he seemed to think that this was a way of getting more sponsors on board with paying for class wins..

dont get me wrong, im bummed about not getting paid for winning class, but this is what we are stuck with, we might as well make the best of it

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I make that some days sitting right here typing on this key board. No boat expense, no sun burn, no boxing and shipping big-azzed smelly fish to Japan, etc.
My wife does the shipping here. No smell either. LOL

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Hey Art! Here is a fishing trip for ya! Someone just emailed this one to me. I have never seen anything like this. Watch it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=x3Bf0WhvsNk

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The camera man got the worst of it Lol.

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Since the single class cars all get thrown together and race to a single winner why would they not get the same points. If I read that correct say you have two g/sa's the winner of the run gets 85 points. And you have 8 single class cars the winner of the single class cars goes 3 rounds and gets 80 points. Or am I miss reading something.

if I ever make it back out I have nothing to worry about any class I run is usually well populated. And I have no chance of winning unless every one redlights.

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That is what nhra calls fair. If you have 12 cars in the single auto or stick. and another car has 1 other car in the class. The car that runs one round and wins gets 85 points. The car the wins in the single category. runs 4 rounds and gets 80 points for a win.
Their reasoning is that they want you to add or subtract weight to get into a class that has somebody in it.
Well can someone explain how the hell I can do that? or how a car in a 6 cylinder only class can do that?

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The way it works is I could you out and run 4 rounds to win the class singles deal. Do it 3 times. Never lose a round. I would have 240 points racer x has 1 car in his class he beats him earns 85 points does this 3 times for a total of 255 points.
I have run 12 rounds and wind up with 240 points. He ran 3 rounds and beats me handily with 255 points
And they call that leveling the playing field.

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I have never fished, but have never heard of anything like that. Strange!

Art, it sounds like you are (were) more obsessed with class than eliminator. Why is that? Winning SS eliminator pays a lot more than winning class ever did. Why would you quit over that? Do you really think NHRA is out to screw you personally for some reason? Why?

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Art the system is easy to beat. All you need to do is have two cars that run the same oddball class. Show up race against your own car and end up with a perfect score.

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Not too many people run in Arties class.

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I should have said what I ment clearer. What I ment to say is if Art would build a spare car for the same class (does not have to be fast) and had family or friend drive it for him. Thus assuring him (or ay one else with a pair of odd balls) a perfect score with the new system.

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Just my opinion, but I think some people were inquiring about an equitable system, not ways to game the system.

Wish Polhill would've showed up at Concord with the weight out... :D

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Michael I don't how you can make this system equitable. I don't think it is fare to give the same points to some one that goes one round as some one that goes three rounds. On the other hand you can not control how many show up in each class. If it was just by rounds won only racers with very populated classes would have a shot at winning. If we really want to give the title to the baddest car out there they should run it like Pats CIC race. One car left stnding at the end. With points for each round won.

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I can only imagine the blow back from that! Jim:eek:




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Well Art is a friend and I like fwd cars if he builds a second car I drive it for him.

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We have a winner! :cool: