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Paul Ceasrine 09-24-2010 03:54 PM

Under-Rated Cars From the Mid-Late 60's
 
Not the favorite choice of Mopar Racers.
The 1966 Plymouth Belvedere Street-Hemi.

Square and Box-like. Heavy with a lower-compression Hemi engine.
Moderate-lift camshaft.

No one expected them to dominate A/S for 1966.

pc

X-TECH MAN 09-24-2010 04:03 PM

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I remember the first time I saw Bobby Warren's 69 Nova run at York US 30 Penn. back in the 7 inch tire days. It sounded like a big block, ran as quick or quicker as most big blocks of the time, but was just a little ole 350/255 HP small block. I was impressed.

vic guilmino 09-24-2010 04:36 PM

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if i had the money i would build a 65-66 cuda with a273- 235hp
i think if would be very fast

Dwight Southerland 09-24-2010 10:17 PM

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Z28

W J 09-24-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vic guilmino (Post 212892)
if i had the money i would build a 65-66 cuda with a273- 235hp
i think if would be very fast

I agree Vic.....or a Valiant 2 dr. post.....or a '66 Valiant convertible. Those 273/235hp Mopar motors were great.....WJ

W J 09-24-2010 10:24 PM

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My favorite's a '64 Chevelle 250hp 327/4sp. 2dr. wagon....also the 2dr. post sedan car/w same combo....they flew. WJ

Ed Fernandez 09-24-2010 10:27 PM

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A 290 CI 225 hp automatic 4 bbl AMC in a rogue/american.Now rated at 210 hp.M/SA car.The 290 has been run in a stick combo by a few guys with good uccess but not worked out yet with an auto in an american body.

Dago Red 09-24-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by W J (Post 212949)
I agree Vic.....or a Valiant 2 dr. post.....or a '66 Valiant convertible. Those 273/235hp Mopar motors were great.....WJ

Been done. Matt Steen runs mid tens with his Valiant.:eek:

Adger Smith 09-25-2010 12:42 AM

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I believe I ran up running against the Warren and Register car when a guy in Texas ended up with it. It was a regular at Paris and Hallsville.

bill dedman 09-25-2010 01:59 AM

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Matt Steen's Valiant is a S/S car.


Angela Bushmaker's 235/273 Valiant runs in K/SA, usually. Her car is competitive (mid-to-high 11's) but is no giant killer. It has benefitted from a moderate amount of HP reduction, but like Bob Glidden in his heyday, Wade Owens's 283 is seemingly needing a factor on the driver....

Tom keedle 09-25-2010 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 212952)
A 290 CI 225 hp automatic 4 bbl AMC in a rogue/american.Now rated at 210 hp.M/SA car.The 290 has been run in a stick combo by a few guys with good uccess but not worked out yet with an auto in an american body.

shhhhhh

Billy Nees 09-25-2010 08:52 AM

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[QUOTE=bill dedman; It has benefitted from a moderate amount of HP reduction....[/QUOTE]

It has also benefitted from an Edelbrock intake. Apparently those stock intakes (for which there is no # listed) must really be rare! Or maybe it's just a west coast thing.

bill dedman 09-26-2010 01:35 AM

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Mopar to her on the intake! Even with the intake and a horsepower reduction, it's still nearly half a second behind the class-record-holding 283 Chevy that dominates the class.

"Just work harder"????

Nobody can work that hard...

Shawn S.Kvaas 09-26-2010 03:11 AM

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Bill,which class and what record does this 283 hold?

Billy Nees 09-26-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 213077)
Mopar to her on the intake! Even with the intake and a horsepower reduction, it's still nearly half a second behind the class-record-holding 283

She would only be 2 tenths behind if the 283 had the right intake!

bill dedman 09-27-2010 06:10 AM

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Shawn,

My mistake; I was referring to Wade Owens' '66 Chevelle, but he's not the record holder...
My apologies for the mistake... dunno where I got that..

bill dedman 09-27-2010 03:38 PM

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BOWLING GREEN, Ky. - Final order after 3 rounds of qualifying in Stock Eliminator at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, North Central Division, event at Beech Bend Raceway Park:

Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 3913 M/SA Wade Owens, Cape Girardeau MO, '66 Chevelle11.786 12.85 -1.064
2 391 C/SA Irvin Johns, Charlestown IN, '09 Challenger10.340 11.40 -1.060
3 4909 C/SA Dempsey Pendarvis, Gonzales LA, '01 Firebi 10.343 11.40 -1.057

Wade's M/SA Chevelle runs as quick as Angela's Valiant K/SA car, usually runs... That was my point. Sorry I presented it so poorly and created a lot of unnecessary confusion.

His car flies; congratulations!

Mark Callanan 09-27-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dago Red (Post 212963)
Been done. Matt Steen runs mid tens with his Valiant.:eek:

What class does that run in?

bill dedman 09-27-2010 10:54 PM

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I think Matt's car is a SS/K (stick car.)

Wade_Owens 09-28-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 213090)
She would only be 2 tenths behind if the 283 had the right intake!

I can't honestly say how much the 459 intake is worth. I have never used any manifold but that one. However, laying a 457 or 858 next to the 459, its obvious which one to use....


Wade O


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