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K Stubbs 09-21-2008 12:10 PM

Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Anyone interested in getting together and contesting big dollar stock/superstock races for next year please contact me. Example:$ 250 entry with 100 cars = $25,000, $500.00 entry with 100 cars = $50,000. We should all be getting together and having these type of races with larger purses and more payback.

Kevin Stubbs
fastfitness1@yahoo.com
501-240-9469

Brian Oakes 09-21-2008 12:30 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Kevin


Talk to Lex at Maple Grove, he spoke to me about this in the summer, i think it is a good deal, just the track will want some, long as they are not whores at the gate, oh ya have to do this on off time with no Div. or National around, but anyone who thinks about it, can see the Diff. on pay day, Lex wanted it for Super class also, don't know his #, but look under Maple Grove Raceway, ya should find it.

Brian

K Stubbs 09-21-2008 01:48 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
I agree Brian and I think we can get tracks to agree to it and come up with a program that works for the track owners, plus the racers will get paid at the track.

Kevin

Kent Hanley 09-21-2008 08:36 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Make it worth everyones time, copy the format of the big bracket races like the one Atco and Tom Stalba host in august. Make it a 3 day race with 3 seperate races. Include Buy Backs so racers and the track can make more money. Dont reinvent the wheel.

Kent

Ryan Horensky 09-22-2008 12:27 AM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
I second that! The format that is run at Stalba's race is pretty good. Def no reason to reinvent the wheel. If NHRA and IHRA cars were allowed to both compete it would ensure that there were enough cars to run seperate stock and super stock classes. Buybacks are also a plus for the racer and the track! This is the type of races we need to have available to us. I have spent alot of my time bracket racing this year. The money is definetely better than class racing unless you have the opportunity to attend alot of national events where the money is very good. I will not attend the Richmond National Event and also the Atco Divisional for this reason. It is 5000 and 2500 to win the footbrake class those weekends at my home track Numidia Dragway, which is 17 miles from my house. I love Stock Eliminator, but I also like getting paid the same day if I do well! We really need to all get together and organize some of these races for next season!

Ryan Horensky
1273 C/SA

Tilley2007 09-23-2008 08:04 AM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Herb, you still having your S/SS race Nov.1-2? Noticed that it was on your schedule.

herbjr 09-23-2008 08:28 AM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Might do 2 races in one day to cut down on expenses but yes we are. will have flier at Kinston.

Chad Rhodes 09-23-2008 09:27 AM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kent Hanley (Post 84264)
Make it worth everyones time, copy the format of the big bracket races like the one Atco and Tom Stalba host in august. Make it a 3 day race with 3 seperate races. Include Buy Backs so racers and the track can make more money. Dont reinvent the wheel.

Kent

buy backs would be a 100% guarantee that I won't be there. No buyback is just one of the many reasons alot of class racers are class racers and not bracket racers. Otherwise i think its a great idea. The man to talk to is Mike Fuqua, his race every year is always a big hit.

fredjohnston 09-23-2008 09:50 AM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 84520)
buy backs would be a 100% guarantee that I won't be there. No buyback is just one of the many reasons alot of class racers are class racers and not bracket racers.

We'll miss you.

Bruce Noland 09-23-2008 10:36 AM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
The man said high dollar Stock and Super Stock races. Don't believe they have much to do with buy backs.

There is at least one $1,000.00 race for the big dawgs. A couple of those each year would be fun to watch. Heads up racing and tear down for the final pair. But the entries would probably drop to about 12 - 16 per race.

herbjr 09-23-2008 12:48 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Piedmont Dragway can and will offer a race like this next year. It will be pre entry and must get a min number of entries. I will do it on a pro rated up purse after the min is met. The more cars the more money with a guarantee. The question is how much to I charge.

I say 300 for 2 races, one Saturday on Sunday, I can do this race the first week of April 2009. If we get 50 cars the purse would be 7500 per race.


3000 win
1500 ru
500 semi
2501/4
125 1/8

Better than a divisional....if we have 100 cars you double that...

Michael Beard 09-23-2008 12:53 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Sounds pretty good to me.

Chad Rhodes 09-23-2008 01:42 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fredjohnston (Post 84523)
We'll miss you.

how are you gonna miss anyone? do you even race?

Tilley2007 09-23-2008 02:15 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Sounds good Herb. Especially if you pay round money.

Crisco 09-23-2008 05:14 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Hey Herb, I will kick in a little something for this....give me a call 615-826-4914

If you can get a few sponsors to kick in some stuff for best winning and losing packages (gift certificates, product etc.) for each round, it makes it even better.


Chris Avaritt

sterling simmons jr 09-23-2008 07:17 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Great idea. I would be glad to attend. :)

stk1424 09-24-2008 11:16 AM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
The concept sounded good until buy backs, double entries etc.come in to play. Do you really want all the killers to have 4 chances to win??Moroso has the best format,you lose you go home. Buybacks will kill the car count.

joe mocci stk1424

K Stubbs 09-24-2008 07:10 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
It sounds like we have enough guys interested, I will personally guarantee $5000.00 to the winner sponsered by my business Fast inc, lets get a game plan together and make it happen.

Kevin

K Stubbs 09-24-2008 07:23 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
FYI, I am not trying to take anything away from NHRA or IHRA, just trying to get us all together for some racing that is more economically suited for todays racer. Lets dont say we are going to go and then no one show up, that happened everytime there was a stock/superstock combo hosted here, so they stopped contesting them. Buy backs are fine with me either way, however, I think having two races in one day would be a great idea and even a high rollers eight or sixteen car race?? If you are already there try to make the best of it.

Kevin

Alan Roehrich 09-24-2008 07:39 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Rather than buy backs, double entries, and other gimmicks, have a consolation race that starts AFTER the second round of the big race. ONLY those eliminated from the big race can enter, for $50, $75, or $100 (promoter's discretion on the entry fee), and have 100% payback. You could also offer a "gambler's race" after the third or fourth round, with a high entry fee (say $500 or more) and winner take all 100% payback, with a must run final.


Just suggestions. It's not real likely we'd make it, but we'd like to.

K Stubbs 09-24-2008 07:44 PM

Re: Big dollar stock/super stock races!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 84713)
Rather than buy backs, double entries, and other gimmicks, have a consolation race that starts AFTER the second round of the big race. ONLY those eliminated from the big race can enter, for $50, $75, or $100 (promoter's discretion on the entry fee), and have 100% payback. You could also offer a "gambler's race" after the third or fourth round, with a high entry fee (say $500 or more) and winner take all 100% payback, with a must run final.

These are all great ideas and we can start now to add more sponsor money to it. If we can get a number of people, sponsors, etc to commit we can make this a super payout with great prizes and be appealing enough that anyone would want to come. I do think its best if all of the money is paid at the track and that way no one has to chase it, or give this kind of race negative feedback to prevent it from happening again.

Kevin


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