Last point to change dial in at NHRA races?
 

At the National event in Joliet last week there is a sign as you roll out of the staging lanes to turn right and head under the tower which reads "no changing dial-in after this point" or some such thing.

Word is there was at least one car where they changed their dial-in at the point where you are stopped under the tunnel to pull out onto the racing surface. So is there really a spot where you can no longer change the dial-in prior to your burnout?

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Most of the time those signs are for the local bracket program every week at those tracks.
I have really never heard or seen where NHRA or IHRA makes that call at their National Events.

I have no idea maybe what your getting at, but i guess there wouldnt be a problem about another driver changing dail ins at the last minute unless your running a box class, in SS & Stock, just knowing him or her is faster or slower then you should be all you need to know.

But thats just me.

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You gotta be careful, some people have been known to change their dial considerably!

Safe Trips All,

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Let em change the dial before they stage. It really doesnt matter.

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I'm with Mr. Zane,
I would think it matters considerably about when they change it as some guys are racing by themselves and others may have 6 people there.

If the other car has say a 12.05 index and has dialed 11.00 out of the staging lanes and just as the fine NHRA official waves you into the water box one of their "crew" changes it to 12.05 you just went from getting a head start to giving one without knowing it until you stage. After all the "Sportsman" part of Stock/Super Stock racing has to come from ethics because it surely isn't about the amount of money being spent.

Just asking if there is a cut off point that's all and it seems there is not. Heck I wouldn't want to get tossed for something like using shoe polish at the wrong time. That would be as bad as when I heard IHRA threw someone out just for supposedly spraying aerosol cans on their intake manifold in their pit. As if 2 or 3 spray cans of keyboard cleaner were going to actually cool 500 lbs of cast iron and give them an advantage!

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From what I've seen, it is typically the ready line, though I think I've seen it allowed in the burnout box before doing a burnout.

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At a points meet, national, or sportsnational, you typically know what your competition has been running during the event. the exception being some of the folks that like to qualify around the bottom of the ladder.
Unless you have one of them first round, then even that doesn't matter. I am with Nitro Joe on this as it should only affect people racing with a box.

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It should'nt matter unless you have a delay box and are crossing over.
Chip

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Hmmmmmm,very interesting. lol .

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How about a little consideration for the people in the tower who have to enter the dial in the computor.

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At every sanctioned event (NHRA/IHRA), there is a red or yellow line at the demarcation point from the staging lanes to the burnout area, which once passed, the dial on the car is official (in the computer) and displayed on the pre-run digital boards and/or finish line marquee. The competitor views the ET displayed and implies consent by staging the car, or appealing to the official starter for a change if an error exists.

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Alast someone who actually reads a rule book!

:D

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At NHRA national events your dial in is entered into the computer when you are 2 pairs from the start line. one pair on the line, one pair in the box, one pair ready to move to the box and thats when it is entered. The standard is when you pull out from the head of the staging lanes your locked in.

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That's what I thought Jeff,

If you are changing the dial as the tower folks are attempting to enter it it isn't fair to them. And it seems like way to much BS, just write the number on the window and go. (If you need that much of a distraction to the other guy take up another sport. What's next, crew members flashing the opponent as they stage?)

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Jeff Foster is correct. Once you pull onto the track it is locked in. If you only have a partial dial in on your car, you can't finish it on the track. Say you already had 10.6 on the window you can't add the final digit to the dial in,say to make it 10.68, it stays as 10.6 . Watched this happen at Gainesville points meet to Woodro Josey. The guy he was to race tried to finish his dial on the track.

Hammer

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One of the most basic things people can do to protect themselves in any dail in class is to check both yours AND your opponents scoreboards before staging.

Not only do you save yourself from being stuck with an erroneous dial in, but if your opponent fails to notice that his is wrong... it has happened to me a couple of times... you can relax a little.

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I'm all for Flashing.

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Indy has the fence that sticks out about 10 feet on each side of the lanes after you pull under the bridge.It's probably 60-80 feet from the water box.The sign says no dial in change beyond this point..I've bracket raced there for over 20 years,the reason they use it for bracket races is as stated before,to give the computer operator enough time to enter dial ins,usually 2 pairs back.I don't know if they enforce that a divisional or the US Nationals.They did enforce it against a friend of mine at the Super Chevy Show in 95 or 96.DQ'D him 5th round for changing his dial after the fence.I have raced alot of tracks where it's head of staging lanes.Best bet is to know the rules and play by them.

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I have to agree with the Legend on this one. More flashing, especially towards the starter.

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